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What are your theories about him, I feel like he might be the source of the infection, but I don't have much to back that up on.
But I feel like he is going to play a big part, cause you can tell that they were asking skittles every question in the book to ask, KC was obviously planting some hints there to get us thinking.
I don't believe that he is the source. He may have been one of the early infected after escaping from the institution. But, yes, he most likely will be a major player in the Chapters to come (I'm guessing around 20-22).
Yeah in the very beginning, they talked about news footage of a insane man with many tattoos being put away in an institution. Generally people who are insane or have mental problems are very intelligent, just not in the right ways. And based on what was said throughout the series, smarter in life, smarter in death. So he could easily be of super high levels of intelligence, making him much more dangerous then even the biggest of zombies.
I'm just curious if he's the one calling back the zombies to the arena or is there something much larger out there that has not been mentioned.
Yeah I do think he might have been one of the first. Do you think since you guys ar saying that he was in an institute, do you think maybe they were doing experiments in that institute (It's been done before) and something went wrong?
It already seems that there were spontaneous breakouts at the same time. Especially if Hawaii was overrun and Kalani had time to get to LA to see it get really bad.
I'm not too sure about all of your theories. I mean, the tattooed zombie said he was Paul... and Paul was such a nice guy.
That's what I was also considering.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Ok, so first, what do we know.
- His name is Bill Roberts, AKA Ink. Was being transfered to a mental health facility when the shit hit the fan.
- He was the one who planned and made the ambush that saul/liz/burt found.
- We know he took out the other tower (Kalani's pop the flood gates theory, and skittles story from chap 17.)
- He is the one running the show at the hockey arena.
- He's one fast mutha. The way he ran from the tower, and how quick he had to have gotten from the arena (post samantha) to the tower (pre paul).
- He's a bad ass, and can still talk (somewhat) and can understand english (he popped up as soon as Burt said he was outta ammo).
- And he's got a keen eye for fashion (Pin stripes is tha shiz.)
And onto the non-facts.
I'm not so sure about him being the source of the infection. He was in custody. How the heck would he pull it off?
Why is he so damn special? Paranoid Skitzo. I'm assuming his brain works differently, and thus he is able to control his magical zombie powers and do what he wants to do. Which, isn't that far off from the zombie agenda anyways.
The hockey arena. I believe it is just a local manifestation of the zombie issue, and it most likely shows itself somewhat differently else where. He has the nightly or weekly, or whatever-lee muder ceremony to feed that need he had when he was a person (to kill). Screw taking a fat guy who's lookin pretty dead. He wants the spunky girl who's gonna flail and all that fun sick crap he loves so much.
Do we actually know that? They've suggested that one may have been driving the car due to the bullet holes but, it was never said that it was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollomandious
Oh, and he can take a bullet like the best of them.
What just gets me is that, what makes him soooo special?
If I'm correct he is about average height and weight.
It could have been an advantage of his condition or as theorized in last week's We're Not Dead podcast it could be luck of the draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by StepLaugh
Damn, i forgot that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked Sid
Burt stated he recognized him, he was the one peepin' them at the ambush site. Hmm, i spose, that doesn't makes it absolute. But if Lizzy was right and a zombie was driving the car, i'd put money on the fact that he was the one driving. And, he probably took bullets like the bad ass he is (the windshield).
Ok, now I have to listen to all the episodes all over again, and this time I'm going to be listening for more about the tattoo zombie.
He was on the rooftop watching above them afterwards... make any assumption from that, not to tip my hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked Sid
Oh, and he may have been mentioned in Chapter 13...
Kc,
You're one slick mutha... time to dive back in.
He really is, now Im listening to these episodes again!Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
I hear ya. I'm laying in bed with the Flu. Thank god I can go back thru these to keep my sanity. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel
13-3 @ 8:40Quote:
Originally Posted by Kc
Hmm I'm guessing he's the one who howled and it signaled all the other ones to retreat.
He sounds like a dinosaur.
Just had a thought. So, i'm gonna share it.
What if the killing in center of the arena is some kind of ritual or procedure that makes better zombies? thoughts.
It certainly can't be ruled out. Personally, I think it's like a blood sport. Ink has someone placed in the center of the arena who will put up a fight, he toys with them, tortures them and then kills them all for the entertainment of the assembled masses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollomandious
Another factoid to throw into the mix on Ink: He is ridiculously fast. When escaping the Tower, Michael calls out his distance first at 100 meters. 5 seconds later (by episode running time) Ink traveled 200 meters (the call was 300). Meaning he completed a 200 meter dash in less time than it takes Usain Bolt to run the 100 meter dash. I geeked out and did the calculation and Ink was running at 89.4mph when escaping the Tower.
Holy Bajesus that's fast!Quote:
Originally Posted by nikvoodoo
What's up with the nickname Ink? Makes him sound like he's from a kid's show. The One with the Markings or the Tatooed One is much creepier and badass.
I imagine he's faster and stronger than all of the average zombies and smarter than even the smart ones. Only the runners might be faster and the Behemoths are definitely stronger.
Can the One With The Markings control the Behemoths I wonder? Also, where did that one guy get the info that his name was Bill Roberts? That has not been mentioned in the episodes.
His name is Bill Roberts. Maybe you should listen to the first few again. Listen closely this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikepaw
Just going by what we are given. We could always call him by his given name (Bill Roberts) instead of Ink. (Chapter2-3 Time: 20:55). Actually, if it weren't for Tower Bill, I'd probably call him Bill just for the fun of it, but it would get too confusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikepaw
I'd think that..."The Zombie of Disputed Moniker" :-P... has some control over the Behemoths. There was one in the Arena where he killed Samantha. Skittles said the normal ones don't go near Behemoths. So either all the zombies in the Arena are smart and not normal, or ZDM can keep Behemoths in line and the others safe from a behemoth.
I think the whole blood sport thing is a bit off. My opinion only, but Samantha was taken down and ripped apart right away. I just think the people in the room are/where reserved for Ink only.
Some do feel a resemblance of pain... or at least remember what pain was. Ink was smart enough to get the hell outta dodge when Saul pulled his Crocodile Dundee "Knife" out and he popped up when they said they didn't have anymore ammo.
ok, i have a serious problem with the blood sport theory, basically, if you are attacked by a zombie, one of two things happen to u,
choice one, u are torn apart, and eaten
choice two, u escape, but you are bitten, or u've been infected in one manner or another, and you turn,
i dont see how there can be a blood sport where the zombies slowly attack and torture and toy with the human until they die, because the moment the human gets a drop of blood inside them, this can be from a bite, a cut, a scratch, dried blood, etc, they'll turn. if the zombies are toying with the human then, he'd almost immedietely turn, i dont see the mindless masses of zombies being able to restrain themselves from biting specifically to keep the human from turning, maybe the smart ones can, but definitely not the normals.
so maybe this has something to do with the immunity theory?, that there are a few humans out there that are immune to the virus, and the zombies can sense these and take these individuals alive? but once again not enough info to go off of.
This is why people were theorizing that it could just be Ink's happy fun time. Or maybe they use it as am tactic for the run of the mill biters to learn the movements of a frightened human to better understand their prey to become more efficient killing machines.
The thing about the scene in the middle of the arena that makes me think "blood sport" is it also reminds me of Interview with a Vampire and the scene in the theater in France. Quick reminder: its where there's a clearly terrified human being stripped onstage and eventually slaughtered onstage by a group of vampires while an unsuspecting audience watches and cheers on because they think its fake.
Obviously the situation in We're Alive is different, but for some reason when that scene happened I immediately thought of that scene. Also of Antonio Banderas as Armand toying with the victim making her think she was safe and then killing her. Samantha calls it herself. They play with their food in the arena.
Sorry to say this Ra1th but you just contradicted yourself. If the zombies were unable to restrain themselves from biting or eating the human then how could they take a human captive? Even if the human was immune then the zombies would attack because of their natural instinct without thinking (if they can). And if the smart could restrain themselves (we know they can) then that would mean that the zombies that captured Datu would all have to be smart, which I'm pretty sure weren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ra1th
The creatures at the arena clearly had orders. Which means they can reason, remember and override their instincts to rip and eat in order to follow those orders.
This is where my hive mentality theory comes in.
Has anyone considered that Ink mighta been a zombie before the main outbreak? "He was convicted of multiple homicides outside Santa Monica last May". He entered the plea of insanity. That's not a likely plea for mere shankin' and shootin' type homicides. I think it's more likely cannibalism, and he was considered paranoid schizo because - you guessed it - he killed and partly devoured multiple victims. There's more to this guy than just being a smart zombie.
I think he might be Patient Zero.
To me what's most remarkable about his plea of insanity is that it was accepted. The insanity defense is one of the hardest to pull off because you have to establish that at the time you commit your crimes you didn't know right from wrong and establishing one's mental state at a specific time in the past is truly impossible. It's whomever's lawyer can afford the best expert witness to convince a jury. So "Ink" must have really had something wrong with him to enter that plea and have it accepted. However, the insanity defense can be used for stabbings and shootings not just weirdly heinous crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RamblinMike
I hadn't considered it, but if he had been a zombie before hand and his crimes were committed a year before the story begins the outbreak would have happened a lot sooner. Not saying there's no merit in the theory, it just requires another extra step in the pathology of the virus (if that's what this truly is) and that the virus laid dormant for a year as it spread world wide. If it did lay dormant, that could explain why it unleashed on a global scale all at one time. It might have looked like a flu virus or something innocent like that until everyone's eyes turned glassy...
What if he's not a zombie? Maybe he's a really good actor, hence the acceptance of the insanity plea.
Blam, mind = blown.
That would mean that he, as a human being, would need to be capable of surviving a 3 story jump and immediately be able to run away at 89.4 miles per hour from the tower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wicked Sid
It's not impossible, the brain is capable of great things. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean there isn't someone who can.
Oh, and was that really Ink? Hmm, was it?