Is this about we're alive?

[Beaumont]

I checked out a couple of episodes of the "we're not dead" podcast and the hosts seem more concerned with trying to be funny rather than actually discussing the show. Then when they do discuss the show they either don't remember what happened or get hung up on something unrelated. They should get some sort of structure and segment the show much better. The best show they had that I heard was with the other guy on third mic. They seemed to discuss more about the show and actually stayed on track a lot more. I think the show would benefit from having another person and maybe a lot less open mic tryout from Greg especially since Brittney misses most of the jokes and then the listener has to endure Greg explaining them.

[Wicked Sid]

Its organized chaos, It uses We're Alive as a base topic to discuss whatever they want. Just because its a podcast about a podcast doesn't mean they need to fully dissect the week's episode, that's what the forums are for.

[Beaumont]

Sorry but I disagree. They can have a million podcasts about whatever they want but if you set one up with the intention of having listeners based on specific content then you should deliver.

[Wicked Sid]

But, they do deliver and its not a full show just about We're Alive, I'm pretty sure any podcast that's any good actually varies greatly in topic. If you watch, read, or listen to any other thing that the hosts have done you would know that they're all over the place and its quite enjoyable.

Conclusion, don't like, don't listen to it. Just enjoy We're Alive.

[Beaumont]

That may be your conclusion but I'm sure many other fans would enjoy a podcast that actually discussed the show more in depth rather than just using the popularity to gain an audience and rate higher on itunes.

[RamblinMike]

That may be your conclusion but I'm sure many other fans would enjoy a podcast that actually discussed the show more in depth rather than just using the popularity to gain an audience and rate higher on itunes.

You're entitled to your opinion, but a lot of people feel differently than you. Dissatisfied fans should speak up; you're only the second person I've read complaining about the show, while lots of others (such as myself) are pretty happy with it.

I've heard this kind of complaint before about other 'casts, but usually the purists are few. I for one dislike podcasts that are too anal about staying on-topic. They get boring fast.

[RamblinMike]

Oh - and while I'm at it. Don't go hitting below the belt. You don't know why they're making the podcast, and it's not fair to accuse them of piggybacking off We're Alive. How's about giving them the benefit of the doubt?

[Beaumont]

Aren't I giving them the benefit of the doubt just by listening? Yeah that's rhetorical. I think you guys are misunderstanding my original post so allow me to clarify. I in no way want them to stop going off topic altogether rather have some sort of structure. I also understand that the show is relatively new and needs to find its way but how will they get better without free critiques from their audience? feedback whether good or bad only help them make the show better.

[Wicked Sid]

I think you guys are misunderstanding my original post so allow me to clarify. I in no way want them to stop going off topic altogether rather have some sort of structure.

Your first post in no way conveyed that message. You at first seemed like you wanted WND to just focus on WA, you then generalized many fans of the show by saying they share the same views as you, which as Mike said, is incorrect. There was no misunderstanding on our side, you had a thought with good intentions but didn't put the pen to the paper, so to speak.

[Beaumont]

I didn't generalize many fans I said others which only indicates other than myself but I have spoken to others who agree with my thoughts and do want more discussion about the actual show but they have what 6 episodes so far? If they're serious about the show it can only get better as they cultivate it and as "We're Alive" gets more popular I'm sure others may make their own podcast to discuss the show and the cream will rise to the the top.

[cycogod]

They are not funny. stopped listening to them, it sounded like a high school phone call or "Gee ... I'm on a podcast" ha ha bubble gum pop. it does need more structure. my opinion.

[Britt]

Hey---

I understand not everyone is going to dig our style of podcasting. And who knows, a few months from now we might sound like a completely different 'cast altogether. We're new, we're still figuring it out. That being said, I appreciate feedback as long as it's constructive.

[Onslaught]

Bitts right they're noobs at podcasting so give them a break, at least for now, I mean maybe soon they'll focus much more on we're alive instead of rambling on and on and on and on.

I'm not saying you're wrong Beaumont but at least let the podcast mature a little before you start to criticize them.

[cPT.cAPSLOCK]

I think this is just a little unfortunate choice of words in the OP. I agree that Beaumont sounds a little fierce or 'attacking' WND, but looking at the username odds are that English isn't his(/her?) primary language (looks French). In the end he mentioned that it was meant as advice for Britt and Greg, so let's interpret it that way: He had good intentions.

I haven't listened to much of WND just yet (subscribed trough MediaMonkey today), but I do have to say that while what I heard so far isn't bad, some more structure would definitely be good. And I'm sure that when our dear hosts have more experience, the quality of the podcast will improve significantly.

[StepLaugh]

Hey guys,

I just recently started a podcast with 3 other friends, and believe me, it's hard to make a podcast entertaining, as well as having alot of news and what not.

I'd say give them time. It's not easy. Once they get 3 people on the show more often, then I think they will get their grove, and it'll be unstoppable.

Britt is awesome and all, but she's a little slow, so give her some credit. :p

[GameOverGreggy]

Hey--

Everyone on this thread is dead to me regardless of what they posted. You die, Britt. DIE!

Greg

[Wicked Sid]

Hey--

Everyone on this thread is dead to me regardless of what they posted. You die, Britt. DIE!

Greg

So... You're dead to yourself?

Interesting... I must investigate!

[Ra1th]

beaumont, hi, just to chip in my 2 cents, if you want really in depth analysis of the episodes, the forum is your best bet. that or talk to nikvoodoo cause that guy really knows his stuff.

The average listener however doesnt really care about all this at all, maybe they'll go to the forums to check something if they have a question but thats about it. that being said i'm not the biggest wnd fan either, i love greg miller, and brit seems really nice, but i've discussed the podcast to death on the forums already, no need to be told what i already know, but the point of the podcast is for the masses and who want some insight into we're alive, and for them brit and greg are doing a terrific job, keep up the great work!

[nikvoodoo]

honestly, even after debating theories and having in depth episode discussions for days on end listening to the We're Not Dead can still start my imagination turning anew. Sometimes it helps to actually hear things stated vs reading on a forum. It might launch you into an entire new thought process and help you analyze something you hadn't thought of before. Even though the first couple episodes were so hard to listen to because of technical difficulties, I still enjoyed the content of it.

Sid: You realize by acknowledging Greg's comment in that manner you've ripped a hole in space/time right? Thanks, dude....thanks a lot.

[Beaumont]

beaumont, hi, just to chip in my 2 cents, if you want really in depth analysis of the episodes, the forum is your best bet. that or talk to nikvoodoo cause that guy really knows his stuff.

The average listener however doesnt really care about all this at all, maybe they'll go to the forums to check something if they have a question but thats about it. that being said i'm not the biggest wnd fan either, i love greg miller, and brit seems really nice, but i've discussed the podcast to death on the forums already, no need to be told what i already know, but the point of the podcast is for the masses and who want some insight into we're alive, and for them brit and greg are doing a terrific job, keep up the great work!

Yeah this forum is great and very active.

[Wicked Sid]

Sid: You realize by acknowledging Greg's comment in that manner you've ripped a hole in space/time right? Thanks, dude....thanks a lot.

And my ascension to supervillian status has been completed! You shall bow to my power!

[Z Sniper]

I agree that it needs more structure. Greg and Britt seem to be having a lot of fun with it, as they should, it engages the audience but it has gone off on tangents quite a bit. If they're proclaiming to be a podcast about a podcast, then structuring the show to fit that motto would work much more nicely for me.
That's all I have to say about that.

[Ra1th]

I agree that it needs more structure. Greg and Britt seem to be having a lot of fun with it, as they should, it engages the audience but it has gone off on tangents quite a bit. If they're proclaiming to be a podcast about a podcast, then structuring the show to fit that motto would work much more nicely for me.
That's all I have to say about that.

Are we witnessing the reincarnation of Three red lights ( greatest podcast about everything BUT 360 games)

[TCM Revolver]

And my ascension to supervillian status has been completed! You shall bow to my power!

You need to change your title to "community supervillian" to reflect your new found glory!! :p

[VeritableHero]

Constructive criticism is always good and the hosts sound receptive to it. As such, here are my two cents.

Structure is always good, even if it is very loose. For gaming podcasts, you typically expect news, what the hosts are playing, listener mail, and more. It quickly becomes easy for the hosts to fall into a rhythym and even switch thinking caps when entering a new segment.

For We're Not Dead, I think natural segments would be Interview (if applicable), Latest Episode Discussion, Crazy Theories, Listener Mail, Contests. Or something similar.

Best Idea from this post (in my opinion):
Since We're Not Dead is the "forum come to life" (loved that description, by the way) - why not add a segment about the hottest thread(s) of the week? Pick 1-3 topics and add your thoughts. This would help out on the weeks when there isn't a special guest and especially the weeks when there isn't a We're Alive episode.

It sounds like Brittany already puts together an agenda for discussion. That's the best start. As long as her and Greg have an idea of where they plan on taking the episode, that's all that matters.

I've enjoyed We're Not Dead very much; the discussions that involved the voice actors have been very insightful. I look forward to listening to the podcast evolve (like all podcasts do).

Hopefully I'm not dead in Greg's book. If so, can I at least be a special zombie class? Maybe not a smart one, but at least a jumper or little one. I just don't want to be a regular infected.

Cheers!

[Ra1th]

I dont wanna be that douchebag who has nothing nice to say so apologies in advance but how can you call yourselves the forum come to life? I dont think ive seen neither brit nor greg post a thing outside the we're not dead category

[VeritableHero]

I dont wanna be that douchebag who has nothing nice to say so apologies in advance but how can you call yourselves the forum come to life? I dont think ive seen neither brit nor greg post a thing outside the we're not dead categoryThey talk about theories and posts from the forum.
They interview the voice actors and ask questions that we submit.

Seems like a good start.

[Ra1th]

Well if thats the case then join in, it'll give you some credibility and ull understand the theories better than if you just skim over it

[Britt]

I dont wanna be that douchebag who has nothing nice to say so apologies in advance but how can you call yourselves the forum come to life? I dont think ive seen neither brit nor greg post a thing outside the we're not dead category

Whether or not I participate in specific threads doesn't reflect whether we can or can't bring the "forum to life". We bring episode discussions and theories from the forum into the podcast and talk about them. When we interview an actor we search the forums for common thoughts/questions about his/her character and ask the actor to talk about them. We read forum member's emails on the podcast that include thoughts, theories or questions.

I'll admit I don't post as often as I would like to (and hope to change this in the future) but even if I don't post, I'm always looking at discussions on the forum...LURKING IN YER' BUSHES OUTSIDE OF YER' WINDOW.

Just sayin'. :)

[GameOverGreggy]

Hey--

Love the idea about highlighting hot threads from the forums. As for not posting, I'm a lurker. Deal.

Greg

[StepLaugh]

What did you guys think of this week?

[nikvoodoo]

I may have been the only person who hasn't minded the podcast from the beginning. I listen to so many podcasts that go off their express topic that I don't care when anyone does it really. Tangents make the world go....uh....oh look at the sparkly!

[Ra1th]

Since im prly allready on the shitlist, can i ask, why? Why lurk and not post? I can understand if you're just a casual listener, but u guys are obviously more heavily invested in this. So why not post. I dont mean to be offend you i'm just wondering why.

[Chelsea C.]

Since im prly allready on the shitlist, can i ask, why? Why lurk and not post? I can understand if you're just a casual listener, but u guys are obviously more heavily invested in this. So why not post. I dont mean to be offend you i'm just wondering why.

I find you highly offensive, Ra1th! HIGHLY! Apologize if you know what's best for you!

J/k :P

[Britt]

Since im prly allready on the shitlist, can i ask, why? Why lurk and not post? I can understand if you're just a casual listener, but u guys are obviously more heavily invested in this. So why not post. I dont mean to be offend you i'm just wondering why.

Ha! You're not on any shitlist dude.

As for why I lurk more than I post...I dunno. Maybe it's a genetic deficiency.

[Onslaught]

Since im prly allready on the shitlist, can i ask, why? Why lurk and not post? I can understand if you're just a casual listener, but u guys are obviously more heavily invested in this. So why not post. I dont mean to be offend you i'm just wondering why.
A lot of whys' in there Ra1th.

What are you, a cop?

[Ra1th]

A lot of whys' in there Ra1th.

What are you, a cop?

Maybe im fbi? Maybe its me who's watching you! Muahhahahaha

[SleepyGlenn]

Wow this must be the We're Not Dead disgruntled customers thread! Yeah, the podcast could be a bit more professional, but it's not made by professionals, it's made by inexperienced but dedicated fans and I salute them for that. :-)

Highlighting popular threads from the forum is an excellent idea though.

[Beaumont]

Since im prly allready on the shitlist, can i ask, why? Why lurk and not post? I can understand if you're just a casual listener, but u guys are obviously more heavily invested in this. So why not post. I dont mean to be offend you i'm just wondering why.

It's not as if they're saving it for the show but with that said I thought the last episode was a lot better.

[HomeGrown]

The interviews with Jim and Kevin were both super-entertaining, due in no small part to Britt & Greg's carefree attitude. Obviously I would expect the topics to stay somewhat related to WA, but fun comes before structure. If they start sounding like NPR, I'm tuning out. :p

[VeritableHero]

... fun comes before structure. If they start sounding like NPR, I'm tuning out. :p
Well said. I second that statement.

[Chelsea C.]

Hey--

Love the idea about highlighting hot threads from the forums. As for not posting, I'm a lurker. Deal.

Greg

I don't blame you. I'd be a lurker too if my name appeared pink every time I commented. :/

Anyway, I enjoy the podcast. Right now, it's a baby pod, which I think some people are forgetting. Personally, I enjoy Greg and Britt's banter; they have great chemistry and are both comfortable on the microphone. That's a hard thing to accomplish. I like humor more than theory--and since I can find plenty of theory on the forum--their balance of the two is a welcomed approach.

Keep it up, guys! I like it.

[Beaumont]

The interviews with Jim and Kevin were both super-entertaining, due in no small part to Britt & Greg's carefree attitude. Obviously I would expect the topics to stay somewhat related to WA, but fun comes before structure. If they start sounding like NPR, I'm tuning out. :p

That's true and so far the funniest thing from the show has been Gregg linking pornographic fan fiction of Rocket Power(?) That was hilarious.

[Hellbringer]

I like to be a more passive listener than an active forum poster, but I thought I'd inject some stuff I've noticed on podcasts in general. I haven't listened to any "We're Not Dead" podcasts yet, but based off of what I'm reading, they have a slight tendency to rant or go off-topic. Not a big deal to me, because I listen to several podcasts that do that, like the Official Xbox Magazine podcast, Tech News Today, Freakonomics, and G4's Feedback. In fact, the only podcast I can recall off-hand that doesn't go off-topic on a rant is Adam Sessler's Soapbox, which is the guy's platform to rant. Going off topic in a podcast is fine by me as long as it doesn't take up a majority of the episode and it is somewhat interesting to me. As long as there's a dynamic/chemistry/cohesion between the hosts on the podcast, and not some sort of condescending animosity among them, I'll keep listening.
I'll give We're Not Dead a chance at some point for sure, though.