Chapter 42-2- Chasing Ghosts

[Red Shirt]

A visit from the FBI because i was talking about how a pod-cast could possibly end would suck, but would also just be my luck.

Yeah. Not that I know from personal experience or anything, but I've heard having the 4Chan Party Van parked outside your house can be a bit of a drag.


alright, I think the question is...would it be worth completely deleting their diesel resources to take out the last major nest in la? I mean, if we knew for a fact taking out the jail clears out 90% of the biters, but leaves the colony to rely on nothing but what mother nature provides...is it worth it?

The thing is, in the ratios required for this to work, the amount of diesel would actually be minimal. The bigger problem is getting enough of the primary ingredient for it to be effective. If they can sort that, it is definitely worth the try.


Second, what if they had a back up generator full of diesel inside the jail that could be used?

Chances are that once main power cut out, the generators would have fired up and burned through it all. Much like at the hospital.

[7oddisdead]

Why does everyone hate Pegs :c


I think a better question might be "Why does anyone not hate Pegs?"

Gooer, my friend, let me count the ways (reason) I dislike Pegs:
1. She's a ditz
2. She's needy and clingy
3. The flowerpot, need I say more?
4. She's manipulative
5. She's indecisive
6. She plays up the helpless card
7. I'm listening to Chapter 17 Part 2/3 and there's a great quote that explains my dislike:
Pegs: "Why is everyone we meet a big aggressive A-hole?"
Michael: "All the passive ones are dead."
With one exception, Pegs proves to be pretty damn passive. If it weren't for the "kindness" of the strangers she's leached off of, she'd be dead too.

Granted she's growing food now and is a pilot but she doesn't have many redeeming qualities, imo.


Darnit.....

this little exchange made my night!

[7oddisdead]

those of you discussing the diesel payload needed for a fuel bomb.

my point was not the amount needed. my point was we have to go off of what we know within the story. CJ is the master of supply, last we heard the are running very low on gasoline, and pretty low on the diesel needed for the generators. that is what we know within the story. IRL...yea, theres no way they could have already burned through all the fuel in LA...but these is the situation we are given in the story. does she sacrifice even a small amount of the, lets say 100 gallons of diesel they have left? that's where the hard decisions lie. what we are told is they keep searching farther and farther or only to come back with barely enough to cover what they used getting there. I just feel like there has to be another solution besides using the fuel their generators run on.

but...in all likelihood. yeah, it will be the dirty bomb. refresh my memory, potassium nitrate? its been a while since I looked at things like that. (dad used to run a fertilizer biz. potassium nitrate *I think* and anhydrous ammonia were big on the "keep an eye/video camera on" at all times)

HI NSA! ALL THE ABOVE IS FICTIONAL, HYPERBOLE, AND MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT :)

edit* I just noticed in that thing I said "deleted their resources" I meant "depleted" two different things..deplete is to lessen, delete is to do away with (use all)..my defintions at least. sorry! :)

[Eviebae]

:tinfoil:jet plane, :tinfoil:jet plane, :tinfoil:jet plane....Just saying. There has to be a magical supply of treated airplane fuel out there, right:D?

Not to disparage KC's writing (which is to blaspheme) but Pegs is annoying because a lot of what she does doesn't make sense. If she's not meant to be a pacifist straw dog her morality needs to be explored in ways that don't make her come across as stupid and meaningless. The dreams were a good start. Of course there is only so much time for each character.

For me it wasn't the flower pot, it was the "oops."

[LiamKerrington]

i guess the thing about the jail is... what's to become of it?
the way i see it, either:

1.) They (Colonists/Dunbarians) blow it up via bomb/nuke/plane/suicidebomber
2.) They agree it's too big to mess with and they end up moving people as far away as possible
3.) Scratch and Tardust do an Arena II: Jail Time sequel
4.) Ink and Crew end up leaving the stronghold and take the Colony
5.) Michael tell's Datu, "hey... one more thing before you turn. Could you help make a MacGyver-style nuke?"

Amendment to option 5.: "And Datu, when you are done building the bomb, attach it to your belly, turn quicker and move into the jail for some bazinga-ka-BOOOOMMMM!"

R2Da2 was left alone when Jay had the opportunity to kill him. At that moment Jay had no idea about any plans of the zombies or Ink; so this means: obviously zombies leave each other alone when they recognize each other. And this- actually - happened all day long since day 1 of the zombocalypse.
This also means: R2Da2 might have good chances of getting into the jail and doing things without the regulars attacking him. This may change when one of the smart ones, especially Randy and/ or Ink see him and understand that he has not changed 100% yet. But up until then R2Da2 is kind of a Joker. So why not using him bringing some C4 or Dynamite or shit into some important places within the Jail - or use him for collecting intel on them zombs ...

Best wishes!
Mad

[LiamKerrington]

Hey, Twin Towers Correction Facility, think they're going to ram it with a plane stocked with explosives?God, I hope so. Just as long as Pegs is flying it.

Good Lord ... Wouldn't this be kind of too close to recent US-history? I mean - twin towers, plane, crashing into it, boooommm and shit??? I would expect this to be kind of a taboo - even in the US ... O_o

[LiamKerrington]

Why does everyone hate Pegs :c

Everyone minus me. Besides her being a pain in the a$$ some times I actually like her a lot, because she is Pegs. And I am glad the survivors have her around. And if it is only for some to have a person to hate.

[Merlin1274]

I don't hate Pegs. I guess I am more indifferent about her now.

King Datu Said he could not kill himself. So I do not see him doing a Suicide run into the Jail strapped down with explosives.. Unless Michael is the one holding the trigger. Burt maybe have to rig up another one of his Radio Bomb triggers.

[Footbutt]

Good Lord ... Wouldn't this be kind of too close to recent US-history? I mean - twin towers, plane, crashing into it, boooommm and shit??? I would expect this to be kind of a taboo - even in the US ... O_o

yeah... i think so.
granted, it was 2001--12 years ago.

some people were not even out of middle school yet.
i was actually working at the Airport in Columbus, Ohio at the time. crazy times, they were.

[Gnex]

Why does everyone hate Pegs :c

I don't hate Pegs.


I hate CJ!!!

[LiamKerrington]

I don't hate Pegs. I guess I am more indifferent about her now.

King Datu Said he could not kill himself. So I do not see him doing a Suicide run into the Jail strapped down with explosives.. Unless Michael is the one holding the trigger. Burt maybe have to rig up another one of his Radio Bomb triggers.

Yeah, right. Has slipped my mind. Then I would ask R2Da2 to deliver the package into the jail, leave it, and then, when he is out again, ka-BOOOOMMM! it with a radio-signal ...

[REZombie]

I hate Pegs and CJ....lol

Sent From Ink's House

[Jannit]

I hate Pegs and CJ....lol

Sent From Ink's House

As much as I'd love to hate CJ I can't. I respect her too much. I dislike CJ's attitude and some of her choices but she gets the job done (sorta since her execution kinda sucks) and is organized and determined enough to actually put in the effort.

[Gooer]

Everyone minus me. Besides her being a pain in the a$$ some times I actually like her a lot, because she is Pegs. And I am glad the survivors have her around. And if it is only for some to have a person to hate.

The thing is, you need that one person in the group that reminds them that was what humanity was before the breakout: before most people turn into the selfish, living at all costs/killing everyone so you win.

[Gooer]

Yeah, right. Has slipped my mind. Then I would ask R2Da2 to deliver the package into the jail, leave it, and then, when he is out again, ka-BOOOOMMM! it with a radio-signal ...

Why does everyone say there has to be a suicider. I'm sure the zombies will not notice what it was they dropped in and ran out for. (Ink might know, but what he doesn't know can't kill hi-oh wait it would.....)

[Jannit]

The thing is, you need that one person in the group that reminds them that was what humanity was before the breakout: before most people turn into the selfish, living at all costs/killing everyone so you win.

Just for fun, I'd like to suggest that there are other characters in the show that can offer those qualities. We have a baby on the way and what is more human than caring for the young? (Unless it's that hybrid zombie-human baby I'm hoping for. >_>) We also have Hope who seems to be the only remaining child in the show. There could be others living in the colony that we don't know about, of course.

Seeing Pegs lose a bit of her humanity/morality when she killed to protect Michael was quite powerful. I'll give you that!

PS: Don't take anything I say too seriously. I debate for the fun of it.

[Gooer]

(Unless it's that hybrid zombie-human baby I'm hoping for. >_>)

Heh. Who isn't?


Just for fun, I'd like to suggest that there are other characters in the show that can offer those qualities. We have a baby on the way and what is more human than caring for the young? (Unless it's that hybrid zombie-human baby I'm hoping for. >_>) We also have Hope who seems to be the only remaining child in the show. There could be others living in the colony that we don't know about, of course.

Seeing Pegs lose a bit of her humanity/morality when she killed to protect Michael was quite powerful. I'll give you that!

PS: Don't take anything I say too seriously. I debate for the fun of it.

While a baby and a young child would add more humanity to the group, having Pegs as the passive, cheery, clingy girl adds a bit of diversity, and adds more to the thread-bare strings left of humanity in a apocalypse setting, i'd imagine. If i was in a group like that, i would want different kinds of people like that: to make a new family of sorts. If they were all the same, such as the Mallers, you couldn't really trust them as they are in it for themselves mostly.

[LiamKerrington]

Why does everyone say there has to be a suicider. I'm sure the zombies will not notice what it was they dropped in and ran out for. (Ink might know, but what he doesn't know can't kill hi-oh wait it would.....)

I personally hope that R2Da2 survives all of this, because he deserves it more than most characters of the show.

[Elisa]

I hate Pegs and CJ....lol

Sent From Ink's House

Ditto

Sent from Randy's cave

:P

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Why does everyone say there has to be a suicider. I'm sure the zombies will not notice what it was they dropped in and ran out for. (Ink might know, but what he doesn't know can't kill hi-oh wait it would.....)

Good point. If king Datu the resourceful is a Christian believer, suicide is not an option, c.f. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_views_on_suicide.

Furthermore, suicide is regarded as

- very, very bad - christianity, judaism, islam
- spiritually unacceptable - hinduism
- is depends - jainism
- watch your karma! - buddhism
- come on, we're a bunch of hipsters! - wicca, cf. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_on_suicide

So, no, Datu does not sound pretty wicca wicked to me.

[kent17]

I personally hope that R2Da2 survives all of this, because he deserves it more than most characters of the show.

This is true, and it is why he has to die.

[UndeadSweeper]

Ditto

Sent from Randy's cave

:P

CJ and Pegs are ok in my book.

From Skittles's Blackberry

[Gnex]

CJ and Pegs are ok in my book.

From Skittles's Blackberry

I have it on good authority that Skittles uses an Iphone!

He likes to talk to Siri!

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

CJ and Pegs are ok in my book.

From Skittles's Blackberry


I have it on good authority that Skittles uses an Iphone!

He likes to talk to Siri!

All these cellular jokes on the day Motorola was sold by Google to Lenovo. :mad:

[TacticalJHP]

I don't hate Pegs. I guess I am more indifferent about her now.


I actually like pegs. Sure, she can be a ditz, but i understand Michael's attraction to her. She is the exact opposite of the horrible situation that Michael finds himself as a leader in. He deals with death, fear, and destruction on every choice he makes every day, and she is there in the sun, tending her garden and cows, with a smile, and an upbeat attitude.

If you are in a situation of hopelessness, there is nothing better to have someone to love that makes you feel like there is something to hope for.
That is also why Datu and hope stuck together for so long through so much.



(Unless it's that hybrid zombie-human baby I'm hoping for. >_>)


Heh. Who isn't?

Me, for one.

I'm hoping the child comes out healthy and strong, and the mother is fine.

[tonyhind86]

Lizzy's baby will be the Chosen One.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Lizzy's baby will be the Chosen One.

Now I am convinced, WA will have a happy ending!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZNSzWIaLo

:yay:

[tonyhind86]

Now I am convinced, WA will have a happy ending!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiZNSzWIaLo

:yay:

True. I can just picture him rising back to redemption and throwing Ink into a reactor core...

[Jannit]

I'm hoping the child comes out healthy and strong, and the mother is fine.

Hold on a sec, I never said I hoped the baby or mother weren't fine! I'm hoping for a happy, healthy baby and momma. The zombie-human hybrid idea wasn't mutually exclusive with a healthy mother and baby.

Like Tony says, the baby will just be special. :D


Lizzy's baby will be the Chosen One.

[Gnex]

Lizzy's baby will be the Chosen One.

Ink is going to get into Dunbar and try to kill the baby...... But Lizzy will protect the baby with her own life...... and Ink will fail to kill the baby and be turned into dust, but the baby will be left with a lightening shaped scar on his forehead....... :squint:

[Gooer]

I actually like pegs. Sure, she can be a ditz, but i understand Michael's attraction to her. She is the exact opposite of the horrible situation that Michael finds himself as a leader in. He deals with death, fear, and destruction on every choice he makes every day, and she is there in the sun, tending her garden and cows, with a smile, and an upbeat attitude.

If you are in a situation of hopelessness, there is nothing better to have someone to love that makes you feel like there is something to hope for.
That is also why Datu and hope stuck together for so long through so much.






Me, for one.

I'm hoping the child comes out healthy and strong, and the mother is fine.

Really, i hope it's all good. But really, births during zombie apocalypses never end well....

[Gnex]

Really, i hope it's all good. But really, births during zombie apocalypses never end well....

Yes! The last thing you wanna do during an apocalypse is get knocked up!

The one bonus they do have in this situation is Tanya..... I would assume as a vet she has delivered various types of animal babies......

The problem comes in if there are any complications or a C section.... :meh:

[TacticalJHP]

Yes! The last thing you wanna do during an apocalypse is get knocked up!

The one bonus they do have in this situation is Tanya..... I would assume as a vet she has delivered various types of animal babies......

The problem comes in if there are any complications or a C section.... :meh:

I say the last thing you want to do is get bit.




But let's look at pregnancy from strictly a survival point of view. A pregnancy is a MAJOR undertaking, not to be taken lightly. And immediately as a woman finds she is pregnant, there should be some changes and preparations made. If you were part of a group of 20 survivalists, and one gets pregnant, it is not just one that is going to be unable to work and defend as normal. there are other needs that the pregnant mother-to-be will need and the group will have to accommodate, such as a midwife and additional supplies.

Like I said, it is a major life changing event when someone gets pregnant in a long term survival situation.

I've heard they even figured out what causes that now.

[tonyhind86]

I say the last thing you want to do is get bit.




But let's look at pregnancy from strictly a survival point of view. A pregnancy is a MAJOR undertaking, not to be taken lightly. And immediately as a woman finds she is pregnant, there should be some changes and preparations made. If you were part of a group of 20 survivalists, and one gets pregnant, it is not just one that is going to be unable to work and defend as normal. there are other needs that the pregnant mother-to-be will need and the group will have to accommodate, such as a midwife and additional supplies.

Like I said, it is a major life changing event when someone gets pregnant in a long term survival situation.

I've heard they even figured out what causes that now.

I heard someone mention something about "birds" and "bees" and got myself totally confused...

[REZombie]

Wonder what the chances are that Saul and Lizzy's kid is the one reading the journals...:o

[Zombie Yeti]

Wonder what the chances are that Saul and Lizzy's kid is the one reading the journals...:o

Good thought that would be sad

[Eviebae]

But let's look at pregnancy from strictly a survival point of view. A pregnancy is a MAJOR undertaking, not to be taken lightly. And immediately as a woman finds she is pregnant, there should be some changes and preparations made. If you were part of a group of 20 survivalists, and one gets pregnant, it is not just one that is going to be unable to work and defend as normal. there are other needs that the pregnant mother-to-be will need and the group will have to accommodate, such as a midwife and additional supplies. Like I said, it is a major life changing event when someone gets pregnant in a long term survival situation.
I've heard they even figured out what causes that now.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why they made the sexy party time drive so strong--especially when you are young, stupid and have less environmental damage.

[Zealous2]

I thought it was Michael narrating to Lizzy's child.
'That was then, and, this is now.'

[TacticalJHP]

Wonder what the chances are that Saul and Lizzy's kid is the one reading the journals...:o

I have to say, I would love that twist at the end.

[Gooer]

We'll find out soon, since we are nearly half way to the end.... *sheds tear*

[LiamKerrington]

We'll find out soon, since we are nearly half way to the end.... *sheds tear*

Yeah. And the approaching end is getting more and more nigh already ... So sad!

[REZombie]

We'll find out soon, since we are nearly half way to the end.... *sheds tear*

You just had to say it...didn't you? *sad*

[Gooer]

The worst thing is, once we find out what happened to the Soldiers, we will be given some sort of huge cliff hanger and have to wait 3 weeks until the next episode is released...

[Zombie Yeti]

The worst thing is, once we find out what happened to the Soldiers, we will be given some sort of huge cliff hanger and have to wait 3 weeks until the next episode is released... yup my guess they will be standing on a roof with ink looking at the colony and micheal and the others will notice then que the end music

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Yeah. And the approaching end is getting more and more nigh already ... So sad!

I am still dwelling on the end of WA that could be described best as some sort of state of denial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8

[Zombie Yeti]

I am still dwelling on the end of WA that could be described best as some sort of state of denial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8
Is it ending this season?

[Gooer]

Is it ending this season?

Yup. This is the final season :C

[TacticalJHP]

Is it ending this season?

Yup, chapter 48 is going to be the last chapter.

As art follows life, it too must end.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Yup, chapter 48 is going to be the last chapter.

As art follows life, it too must end.

I wonder what will happen if Mr Wayland seals a deal with the Walt Disney Corporation. Would this not leave the door open for all sorts of origin, pre- and possibly sequel productions?
I mean, they are even planning on doing this:

http://www.scified.com/news/1461

[TacticalJHP]

I wonder what will happen if Mr Wayland seals a deal with the Walt Disney Corporation. Would this not leave the door open for all sorts of origin, pre- and possibly sequel productions?
I mean, they are even planning on doing this:

http://www.scified.com/news/1461

I shudder at the thought of an animated, dancing, singing version of We're Alive.

I can't reload ammo to that.

[Gooer]

Man, Disney are sure milking Star Wars for all they can....

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

I shudder at the thought of an animated, dancing, singing version of We're Alive.

I can't reload ammo to that.

Yeah, we will get a musical version of WA, finally! *ducks and takes cover"

[TacticalJHP]

Yeah, we will get a musical version of WA, finally! *ducks and takes cover"

please see this reaction...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8

[Red Shirt]

please see this reaction...

Indeed. I was kinda-sorta tongue in cheek on board with that a while back... Now I kinda get a bit table-flippy too.
(╯°□°）╯彡┻━┻

[REZombie]

I am still dwelling on the end of WA that could be described best as some sort of state of denial.

Thinking about that myself...and i was bored....

"Realized we were into the 40’s
So many chapters passed before this
And a chapter came, that stopped me on a dime
I spent most of the weekend, looking at the scheduling
Thinking ‘bout the series and thinking ‘bout sweet time
Worried when in sank in, that this might really be the real end
How it hit me…When I realized this kinda news.
What will I do?
And I thought..

[Chorus]

I’ll go We’re Alive’n
I’ll go Tower stairwell climbin’
I’ll listen to an episode, ‘bout a man named King Datu
And I'll love Riley’s laughter
And I'll love Puck’s banter
And I'll give Pegs the credit that I’ve been denying
And I thought I’m glad to have this chance
To live like We’re Alive is dying

I thought, I’m finally the listener
That most the time I wished for
And I became a listener a show would like to have
And all of a sudden re-listenin’
Wasn’t such an imposition
And I listened three times the year I lost this show
Well I finally read the wiki
And I took a good long hard look at how I’d listen
If I could listen all again.
And then

I’d go We’re Alive’n
I’d go Tower stairwell climbin’
I’d listen to an episode, ‘bout a man named King Datu
And I’d love Riley’s laughter
And I’d love Puck’s banter
And I’d give Pegs the credit that I’ve been denying
And I thought I’m glad to have this chance
To live like We’re Alive is dying

Like the series was a gift and you've got eternity
To think about how to listen to it,
What could you do with it, what can
I do with it, what would I do with it.

We’re Alive’n!
I went Tower stairwell climbin’
I listened to an episode, ‘bout a man named King Datu
And I loved Riley’s laughter
And I loved Puck’s banter
And I gave Pegs the credit that I’ve been denying
And I thought I’m glad to have this chance
To live like We’re Alive is dying

To live like We’re Alive is dyin'.
To live like We’re Alive is dyin'.
To live like We’re Aive is dyin'."

[Red Shirt]

Thinking about that myself...and i was bored....

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

Not bad actually. Anything in mind for "sung to the tune of?"

[REZombie]

┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)

Not bad actually. Anything in mind for "sung to the tune of?"

Yeah, one of my facebook friends posted Tim McGraw's Live like you were dying song right after reading those last post... as i said, i'm bored, lol

[LiamKerrington]

I shudder at the thought of an animated, dancing, singing version of We're Alive.

I can't reload ammo to that.

For days, week,s months, years, decades, NOR: AGES many members of this ask Kc to write the WA musical; and Kc already announced this on the WA Fancast Podcast that he considers doing this for chapter 36, because chapter 36 has everything you need to create a good musical ...

Ok - animation ... Well, you know: I don't care about animated movies anymore - either you have bad acting, or you have voice-acting on animated figures - what's ther real difference hear? Only the Oscar-nominee-category ... So, why not animated ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Man, Disney are sure milking Star Wars for all they can....

Well, whatever, good news is that we will just have to listen to this 4-5 times before the conclusion of episode 42 comes out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZMgt1AzndY

[Zombie Yeti]

I'm so sad now I love this podcast it seriously needs to be a show its so well written and engrossing. Just please make an ending that doesn't make me want to destroy planets like the ending to dexter

[Zombie Yeti]

I have been re listening to it yet again I think nature has a lot to do with the events. Always crows before doom. canaries or something when good things happen. Also the rain the ambush the stuff with datu. Kind of a cleansing . Rain

[Gooer]

Just noticed that Victor said he thought Austin McKibben looked familiar, he must of slightly remembered what Arrowhead looked like....

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Ok, I just found out that I might have to revise my opinion on CJ and the colony. Putting in female in charge simply seems to be a common trend these days - at least in Europe:

https://twitter.com/JeanineHennis/status/429630898532016128/photo/1

[Storm]

I wonder what will happen if Mr Wayland seals a deal with the Walt Disney Corporation. Would this not leave the door open for all sorts of origin, pre- and possibly sequel productions?
I mean, they are even planning on doing this:

http://www.scified.com/news/1461

If Disney should remake WA they better not make the characters anthropomorphic animals... It would just end up looking like a furry convention gone wrong. :) Though it'd be interesting to see what the different characters would become...
...Then Again, they'd probably need to be the same species... If not Tanya would have a lot of Work to do comparing DNA and stuff... Then Again, she's a vet now, would she just become a normal doctor in the Disney version? .........
.........I better just stop thinking about it before my head explodes.........

[Zombie Yeti]

Just noticed that Victor said he thought Austin McKibben looked familiar, he must of slightly remembered what Arrowhead looked like....

maybe he knew him before
all of this

[pmchawk]

If Disney should remake WA they better not make the characters anthropomorphic animals... It would just end up looking like a furry convention gone wrong. :) Though it'd be interesting to see what the different characters would become...
...Then Again, they'd probably need to be the same species... If not Tanya would have a lot of Work to do comparing DNA and stuff... Then Again, she's a vet now, would she just become a normal doctor in the Disney version? .........
.........I better just stop thinking about it before my head explodes.........
Muppets would work, kinda. The best fit of course is obvious, Gonzo would be Saul.. Obsessed with chickens. lol

[Bullethead]

Tanya says "all our soldiers"...but what was Max ? The one who left the hum-v to help Datu on the windmill? Just a civilian trainee?

EDIT:

Never mind, thanks WA Wiki. He was a colonist. Just messed with me as he arrived with the soldiers from the prior trip.