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nikvoodoo
Sep 23rd, 2013, 03:58 PM
After 57 episodes, you know the drill! Share thoughts. We read. You get ego boost!

turbo
Sep 23rd, 2013, 04:01 PM
Ooh Ooh me first! Thanks for letting me guest again!

I think Riley is going to go ape shit on CJ and sneak up to Dunbar. She, along with Saul, does not want to let go of Lizzy again, but also wants to kill Scratch pretty bad, so maybe Burt will go too and plan from there?

pmchawk
Sep 23rd, 2013, 04:39 PM
I think scratch will follow Saul, Victor, Lizzy, Puck, and Karl back to Dunbar. We hear how gridlocked everything seems to be around LA so there wouldn't be many ways to go from the Colony to Dunbar. Scratch doesn't know exactly where Dunbar is but they know it's approximate lactation so a probable route could be figured out depending on gridlocks and the area where they know it could be.

Scratch tries to get Saul and Victor to break her into the Colony and are forced to tell Lizzy they were exiled.

scbubba
Sep 23rd, 2013, 05:42 PM
I'm very interested to see how Scratch works back into the story. She wants Pegs, for sure. She now knows and hates CJ but may believe CJ is toast after the way she left her. Either way, the Colony is a prime target for Scratch as long as she thinks Pegs is there.

So, will Scratch bird dog the Dunbar bound convoy out of curiosity? Or will she see it as an opportunity to penetrate the Colony defenses with so much firepower gone? I'm thinking she's focused on the Colony... but when will she strike?

And I think Saul is plotting and planning. How to get all his peeps (and the dog) out of the Colony and into his safe haven (hey, he lived for a bunch of months in Dunbar and the safe house network without any big problems). Will his plans include Michael and Co? Will they include the possibility of a double cross from CJ?

I love the way Kc is setting the stage here.... Just can't wait for the curtain to go up!

Cabbage Patch
Sep 23rd, 2013, 08:47 PM
...Scratch doesn't know exactly where Dunbar is but they know it's approximate lactation so a probable route could be figured out...

Something I missed?

LiamKerrington
Sep 23rd, 2013, 10:28 PM
Hi.

1) What will happen when Lizzy starts to understand the or learn about the situation of Saul and Victor? Will she explode and go all drama, or will she fuel the departure and do anything to keep the Colonists away?
2) Scratch: I don't think Scratch, Tardust (, and the remaining Mallers?) will chase down Dunbar which is like 30 miles away; after the rebellion and the zombie-attack I hold it more likely that they will have found shelter in one of the outposts of the Colony. This would allow them to observe what happens at the Colony; and they could expect that no Colonist would take position in those outposts anytime soon. Also Scratch would be much closer to the Colony in order to strike at the right moment.
3) I feel bad about Michael. He seems to be in his comfort zone to serve a purpose; and everyone near him discloses the realities. I wonder what happens when Michael learns about all those tragic events ...

Best wishes,
Liam

LiamKerrington
Sep 23rd, 2013, 10:29 PM
Something I missed?

Nope. The only thing Scratch might know is that "somewhere over there" could be a location, which ... But this would be the same location Kalani was sent to in the first place. He never revealed the location. And after Dunbar was overrun, Scratch had a new target - Michael's tower. That's why I have some doubt to expect Scratch in, around or near Dunbar - only accidentally.

pmchawk
Sep 23rd, 2013, 10:38 PM
Something I missed?

Lol. Apparently I didn't proof read my post well enough.

Britt
Sep 24th, 2013, 12:22 AM
It's 12:22 AND I EXPECT MORE POSTS IN HERE.

7oddisdead
Sep 24th, 2013, 01:00 AM
im scared of words.
CJ is bossy like a bossypants lady.

I feel like victor will be smashing his nutsack on sauls drumset in the near future. before all the rest of the gang moves in and he cant.

^the above statement is not an analogy.

I like turtles

Storm
Sep 24th, 2013, 02:07 AM
I expect a huge christmas party at the colony, after all it's around that time now... 22.nd or 23.rd of december, not exactly sure. I'm just surprised that there's no snow in the colony - but well, I don't know how the weather works in LA. :)
I doubt that Scratch will show up yet, at least not by attacking neither Dunbar nor the the colony. No idea how she'll enter the scene again then, but...yeah, I dunno.
I'm just looking forward to the moment when Michael finds out what CJ's hiding from him... She's such a snake right now!

Oh, and I loved Tanya telling Hope to be more happy. She'll have to wait for her eyes to get used to all the inputs again. She's been blind for months now. And after all, it sounded like her condition was better than before the surgery, so... Did she actually lose anything from it? Not really. :)

LiamKerrington
Sep 24th, 2013, 05:27 AM
The last time there was a party, there was also a war ... No, wait. This time things are much cooler, 'cause them friggin' Mallers are outnumbered and outgunned, and them zombos got their asses handed back too many times according to #36 and #37 ... So yeah:


http://youtu.be/E8gmARGvPlI

clem131
Sep 24th, 2013, 05:39 AM
It's 12:22 AND I EXPECT MORE POSTS IN HERE.

I for one am exhausted by all the speculation we did for the last episode, after which things just fell smoothly in place (except Riley randomly sensing something might be up). I think this is a "let's wait and see" episode. (Build up, no release) :)

scbubba
Sep 24th, 2013, 07:24 AM
I for one am exhausted by all the speculation we did for the last episode, after which things APPARENTLY just fell smoothly in place (except Riley randomly sensing something might be up). I think this is a "let's wait and see" episode. (Build up, no release) :)

There... I fixed that post for you... :cool:

pmchawk
Sep 24th, 2013, 07:24 AM
Nurse Brit remakes an appearance and becomes CJ's personal nurse/assistant. CJ happens to die shortly after writing a living will putting Nurse Brit in charge of the Colony. Micheal has a hissy fit...

Eviebae
Sep 24th, 2013, 09:17 AM
Here's some more Voodoo (http://www.kiwimojo.com/thepetrolwa.htm) symbolism for you~

Some of the symbols on Ink are Voodo--specifically snakes referring to the loa Damballah (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damballa) who is seen as the creator of all life. Damballah has two wives (or one wife and one concubine, potato, potahto) one of which is always depicted as having scars or scratches on her cheeks! The second wife with the scratches has an aspect called Erzulie Dantor.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erzulie) (emphasis mine):

In her Petro nation aspect as Erzulie Dantor she is often depicted as a scarred and buxom black woman, holding a child protectively in her arms. She is a particularly fierce protector of women and children. She is often identified with lesbian women.
A common syncretic depiction of Erzulie Dantor is St. Jeanne D'Arc, who is displayed carrying or supporting a sword. Another is as the Black Madonna of Częstochowa, as she is represented as being dark-skinned. Her colours are red, gold and navy blue. Her symbols are a pierced heart and knives or swords. Her favourite sacrifices include black pigs, griot (seasoned fried pork), and rum.
The scars on her cheek are said to be the result of a fight between her and Erzulie Freda over possession of Ti-Jean Petro, as the two are fierce rivals. The cuts shown on her face in the syncretic reproductions are matches to the surface damage on the Black Madonna's face in the original icon.

Sound like anyone we know?

nikvoodoo
Sep 24th, 2013, 10:00 AM
Man...I much prefer Erzulie from Once on this Island. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_on_This_Island)

Pretty Goddess of Love who triumphs over Papa Ge. Not a vindictive lover of all men who treats women like poop.

Grognaurd
Sep 24th, 2013, 11:29 AM
Well, the last "wife" we saw TOWTM take was Samantha. She had beautiful green eyes. Remeber what color his eyes were? Green. I wonder if we know anyone else with green eyes. /wink...





Posted at the end of season 2


So what is going to happen to Lizzy? The tower is wrecked. Scratch will probably not have another opportunity like this. So what is the value of Lizzy? Green Eyes.

Michael makes the observation that Ink has clear green eyes when they confront him in the tower. This is unlike the eyes of the other zombies. In fact, one of the thing people say to check after a close call is the eyes.

Datu says that Samantha has green eyes.

So ink has green eyes
Samantha had green eyes
Lizzy has green eyes.

Is any other eye color mentioned? Do you know the eye color of any other character? I can only think of one. In chapter 1 Michael says Pegs dark eyes drew him to her. Have I missed any?

Are green eyes a genetic marker for something important to the zombies?

Wading further into the deep end, The woman killed at the golf course is a red head. Red heads often have green eyes.

clem131
Sep 24th, 2013, 11:37 PM
There... I fixed that post for you... :cool:

Damn, can't rep you until I spread blah blah blah. Anyway, what did seriously happen in this episode? The big punishment of Victor and Saul is to stay at Dunbar, and that I expected. But now they make it sound not like an exile but just like them managing an extension of the colony, with periodical visits from Michael and the rest from the Colony. So, what's the big punishment? Not being able to walk in Liberty Park anymore? What's the point, what did CJ obtain by that? We went from "I will send you out there to die ("you think that matters to me right now?") to "Help yourself with the whole building, I left you some real nice white wine in the pantry". It seemed real smooth and CJ did not even achieve his revenge over Saul and Victor. I don't know, maybe I'm overanalyzing.

7oddisdead
Sep 25th, 2013, 12:16 AM
Damn, can't rep you until I spread blah blah blah. Anyway, what did seriously happen in this episode? The big punishment of Victor and Saul is to stay at Dunbar, and that I expected. But now they make it sound not like an exile but just like them managing an extension of the colony, with periodical visits from Michael and the rest from the Colony. So, what's the big punishment? Not being able to walk in Liberty Park anymore? What's the point, what did CJ obtain by that? We went from "I will send you out there to die ("you think that matters to me right now?") to "Help yourself with the whole building, I left you some real nice white wine in the pantry". It seemed real smooth and CJ did not even achieve his revenge over Saul and Victor. I don't know, maybe I'm overanalyzing.

perhaps you are and perhaps not. what if Cj has actually doubly manipulated saul and vic by thinking they are being punished, yet in fact she has placed two people she knows as capable out into the field. while she doubtless was quite serious about "never wanting to see them again" she also has just established a backup plan should the colony fail. plans within plans within plans...goddamn her. I want to hate her but taken in that context.....don't know that I can.

scratch that....I still do.

Cabbage Patch
Sep 25th, 2013, 12:19 AM
Well, the last "wife" we saw TOWTM take was Samantha. She had beautiful green eyes. Remeber what color his eyes were? Green. I wonder if we know anyone else with green eyes. /wink...

This reminds me of "Big Trouble in Little China", where the story revolved around girls with green eyes.

LiamKerrington
Sep 25th, 2013, 01:17 AM
This reminds me of "Big Trouble in Little China", where the story revolved around girls with green eyes.

Which is a very cool flick by the way ...

scbubba
Sep 25th, 2013, 04:08 AM
Damn, can't rep you until I spread blah blah blah. Anyway, what did seriously happen in this episode? The big punishment of Victor and Saul is to stay at Dunbar, and that I expected. But now they make it sound not like an exile but just like them managing an extension of the colony, with periodical visits from Michael and the rest from the Colony. So, what's the big punishment? Not being able to walk in Liberty Park anymore? What's the point, what did CJ obtain by that? We went from "I will send you out there to die ("you think that matters to me right now?") to "Help yourself with the whole building, I left you some real nice white wine in the pantry". It seemed real smooth and CJ did not even achieve his revenge over Saul and Victor. I don't know, maybe I'm overanalyzing.


perhaps you are and perhaps not. what if Cj has actually doubly manipulated saul and vic by thinking they are being punished, yet in fact she has placed two people she knows as capable out into the field. while she doubtless was quite serious about "never wanting to see them again" she also has just established a backup plan should the colony fail. plans within plans within plans...goddamn her. I want to hate her but taken in that context.....don't know that I can.

scratch that....I still do.

Well, CJ did get called out in 37-3 by Saul/Victor during her banishment rant. They reminded her of her deal with them about Ground Zero. She felt he had to honor her word since she was calling them out for lying. So, she gets them out of the Colony, still maintains her illusion of integrity, and as 7odd says, may have put a backup/failsafe plan into motion with Saul/Victor/Lizzy re-establishing Dunbar, the safe houses, and the supporting systems they had.

At a minimum, she has to know that Saul and Michael will have some sort of communications after the exiles get back up into LA. That will give CJ information on how things stand at Dunbar, et al.

scbubba
Sep 25th, 2013, 04:32 AM
Oh, and with respect to numbers in the Colony, when Victor sneaks back into the Colony via the water truck in Chapter 32, he gets Gatekeeper and CJ talking on the police radios. Gatekeeper gives her a rundown on Colony numbers (from 32-2 around the 13:30 mark):
- 90 Colonist remaining before the Mallers show up
- 20 slaves the Mallers brought with them
- 30 (rough guess) Mallers themselves

Total of around 140 people; 110 minus the Mallers.

Obviously some of the Colonists and slaves are killed in the revolt. It's assumed that all of the Mallers are either killed or get out of the Colony during that time. Some number of the remaining people are killed in the Zombie attack that follows as well.

Add Glenn and Pete along with CJ, Saul, Victor, Lizzy, Michael, Datu, Tanya, Hope, Kelly, Burt, Riley, Pegs, Puck, Muldoon, Robbins, and Carl.

That could be a total Colony population of between 75 and 90, assuming that there are at least the 62 mentioned in the voting conversation plus the known non-voters (everyone from Irwin + Saul, Victor, Burt, and Lizzie).

In case anyone was wondering..... :)

LiamKerrington
Sep 25th, 2013, 05:58 AM
@scbubba: Thanks for the numbers. Those have slipped my mind; also I may have been way too pessimistic about them with the revolt and the latest zombattacks in mind.

Grognaurd
Sep 25th, 2013, 06:24 AM
Oh, and with respect to numbers in the Colony, when Victor sneaks back into the Colony via the water truck in Chapter 32, he gets Gatekeeper and CJ talking on the police radios. Gatekeeper gives her a rundown on Colony numbers (from 32-2 around the 13:30 mark):
- 90 Colonist remaining before the Mallers show up
- 20 slaves the Mallers brought with them
- 30 (rough guess) Mallers themselves

Total of around 140 people; 110 minus the Mallers.

Obviously some of the Colonists and slaves are killed in the revolt. It's assumed that all of the Mallers are either killed or get out of the Colony during that time. Some number of the remaining people are killed in the Zombie attack that follows as well.

Add Glenn and Pete along with CJ, Saul, Victor, Lizzy, Michael, Datu, Tanya, Hope, Kelly, Burt, Riley, Pegs, Puck, Muldoon, Robbins, and Carl.

That could be a total Colony population of between 75 and 90, assuming that there are at least the 62 mentioned in the voting conversation plus the known non-voters (everyone from Irwin + Saul, Victor, Burt, and Lizzie).

In case anyone was wondering..... :)

The only thing I wonder is "Colonist" a title, much like guardian. When victor is leading Pegs etal and he says Colony, she Parrots colony, much like she does when she hears Marcus. Could be a device KC uses to help it stick in the listeners mind, but could also be she recognizes the names. What makes me suspicious is Pegs calls Michael etal Guardians in her Journal in Season 1 even before we hear the term, but Michael etal call themselves soldiers.

Is there a difference between "colonist" and survivor?

Hoff4D
Sep 25th, 2013, 07:31 AM
Since I'm lazy, just gonna drop my first post in the episode thread here:


Alright Alright! Another episode! woohoo!

Let's see....I, among others, were way off. I thought Saul/Victor would sugarcoat their departure to dunbar to the masses, but at least let Michael/Lizzy in on the details. Whoops. Still not too bad I guess. They have a reason to work there that will serve a temporary excuse, but like Michael keeps saying, they can train others. Lizzy is going with, but this worries us for medical attention, no worries though the crew has PLANNED TONYA'S ARRIVAL TO DUNBAR FOR BABY DELIVERY. Anyone else read this as "Expect fecal matter to hit the wind machine just before Tonya's expected arrival?" yea...that's what I got out of it.

Riley is pretty damn keen when she's off the sauce! Something IS up, and she's damn close to what it is. Props to Riley!

Alright, let's get our hats on early folks, here's mine:

Saul/Victor/Lizzy make it to Dunbar. Their Escort leaves them once they get inside and give an 'all clear'. But once deep inside they're surprised by scratch/Tardust. They take Lizzy hostage as they enter a room or something, getting the jump on em and make victor/saul stage some story to the Colony for a run and make up a story so that PEGS has to go to Dunbar for something. Riley finally teaches someone to cook in the interim, and is allowed to accompany pegs (or does so off the books). Burt goes with as 50 cal escort man. Once Pegs/Riley/Burt arrive they enter to deliver/pick up some supplies from Victor/Saul and end up in a surprise epic battle with scratch/tardust.

Hoff4D
Sep 25th, 2013, 07:56 AM
Well, the last "wife" we saw TOWTM take was Samantha. She had beautiful green eyes. Remeber what color his eyes were? Green. I wonder if we know anyone else with green eyes. /wink...


I like the theory....but I'm having trouble remembering exactly (unless I dreamt it), I recall Kc commenting a long time ago when someone pointed out an inconsistency in the story of someone's eye color. I thought it was something like Michael's first time seeing someone he described them as having blue eyes, then when saul saw them it was green eyes. I swore it was Lizzy, but I'm having doubts if this ever happened at all now since I perused the 'loophole' thread where I swore I read it, and can't find it again....

I recall (if it happened and I'm not insane), Kc saying they would go back and fix it so both said the same color, but if this actually happened, I'd have a hard time believing the specific color of un-turned eyes is a main plot point if Kc made a mistake on ones color.

That said, I'm a huge proponent of the eye thing. I stand by my critiques a few episodes ago about the chick who Tonya put down and Michael specifically calling out the appearance of her eyes.


Please tell me I didn't dream up that first part someone?

Grognaurd
Sep 25th, 2013, 08:28 AM
You are right about blue vs green, but both are related in that they do not produce the brown color. The dark eyes are the ones that are colored with typical skin pigment. The Blue and Green color is more a function of how light is scattered within the eye. Like the sky is blue because the narrow wavelengths are scattered more than longer wavelengths.

You really can't put a bunch of blue eyes in a blender and get back a blue paint. You could do it with brown eyes because of the melanin and get a brown color.

Hoff4D
Sep 25th, 2013, 08:32 AM
You are right about blue vs green, but both are related in that they do not produce the brown color. The dark eyes are the ones that are colored with typical skin pigment. The Blue and Green color is more a function of how light is scattered within the eye. Like the sky is blue because the narrow wavelengths are scattered more than longer wavelengths.

You really can't put a bunch of blue eyes in a blender and get back a blue paint. You could do it with brown eyes because of the melanin and get a brown color.

Not arguing their plausible significance, just that if it was an oversight in one script or another, than it is most likely not the easter egg of the outbreak. I still love the theory though

scbubba
Sep 25th, 2013, 09:47 AM
You really can't put a bunch of blue eyes in a blender and get back a blue paint. You could do it with brown eyes because of the melanin and get a brown color.

You got some strange hobbies.... :squint: Or the oddest damn painting service known to mankind.

:D

Hoff4D
Sep 25th, 2013, 10:48 AM
You got some strange hobbies.... :squint: Or the oddest damn painting service known to mankind.

:D

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Hoff4D
Sep 25th, 2013, 10:49 AM
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It always leads back to bob ross, doesnt it?

Grognaurd
Sep 25th, 2013, 10:56 AM
You got some strange hobbies.... :squint: Or the oddest damn painting service known to mankind.

:D

The eyes Might have it...

Hyper-Keratin

My guess is the zombies are hardened by a hyper production of Keratin in skin and bones. Great for deflecting bullets, but it might really suck in the eyes. Might screw them up and make it difficult to see. The Blue / green eyes do not produce the melanin. So, if I was super creative, I might say that they same ressesive trait that prevents the production of melanin, might also reduce the amount of hyper-keratin produced.

Grognaurd
Sep 25th, 2013, 10:58 AM
Man, I am sorry, niK. I did not mean to hyjack your thread.

/sheepishly slinks away.

I thought it was my eye thread...

Eviebae
Sep 25th, 2013, 02:14 PM
Man...I much prefer Erzulie from Once on this Island. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_on_This_Island)

Pretty Goddess of Love who triumphs over Papa Ge. Not a vindictive lover of all men who treats women like poop.

Doesn't she triumph by turning into a tree? It's interesting all the different Erzulie's there are. Probably a mix of different Loa's to begin with combined with events producing a needed version...

nikvoodoo
Sep 25th, 2013, 02:51 PM
Doesn't she triumph by turning into a tree? It's interesting all the different Erzulie's there are. Probably a mix of different Loa's to begin with combined with events producing a needed version...

Nah that was the peasant girl she championed.

Don't worry about it grog. Threads do what they do :)

scbubba
Sep 26th, 2013, 04:21 AM
The eyes Might have it...

Hyper-Keratin

My guess is the zombies are hardened by a hyper production of Keratin in skin and bones. Great for deflecting bullets, but it might really suck in the eyes. Might screw them up and make it difficult to see. The Blue / green eyes do not produce the melanin. So, if I was super creative, I might say that they same ressesive trait that prevents the production of melanin, might also reduce the amount of hyper-keratin produced.

Very interesting. We never get any details on what the eyes of a Behemoth look like but we have interaction in the form of Riley's well placed shot into the eye of one of them. And then a behemoth covers its eyes while being shot at (was that the one chasing Kalani & Angel or the one chasing Saul & Victor?).

And we go through the whole "incredible sense of smell" discovery in Season 1 that could hint at a reduced eyesight capability in the "normals".

As they say, "the eyes are the windows to the soul" so in this case maybe the eyes are the doorway to downfall of TOWTM and maybe all of the Zombie Apocalypse....

Witch_Doctor
Sep 26th, 2013, 09:20 AM
Man, I am sorry, niK. I did not mean to hyjack your thread.

/sheepishly slinks away.

I thought it was my eye thread...

Back to the eyes.... http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/showthread.php?4816-Chapter-38-1&p=64713&viewfull=1#post64713

Since you won't be needing the tinfoil hat, let me wear it for a second. Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'
Her mom, redheaded Samantha was snatched by TOWTM's goons and delivered to him.
Red hair - green eyes. TOWTM has green eyes. So does Samantha.

I'm gonna stop here because the only other stuff I could come up with are Green eyes - envy - Cain envious of Able - Cain Hospital - Able = Can do - Datu can do anything...
OK, back to bed I go.:tinfoil:

pmchawk
Sep 26th, 2013, 12:31 PM
I haven't seen this much obsession with eyes since JK Rowling said Harry's eyes are very important to the Harry Potter series..

Grognaurd
Sep 26th, 2013, 12:53 PM
Lol, the only HP I know is Lovecraft. Hoff has a great point about Lizzy's eye color changing so it probably is nothing critical to her, but Samantha's green eyes and TOWTM's green eyes are both mentioned in the same section of the story.

TOWTM will also be interested in Lizzy for her child. What gives me cold shivers is that CJ nearly sacrificed Victor just to see what would happen. I would not put it past her to put Lizzy in harm's way just to see what happens. She exiled Pete and Glenn. She seems to recycle plans...

pmchawk
Sep 26th, 2013, 08:01 PM
Glen and Pete were never part if Dunbar to be exiled. The safe house was temporary until they proved they were worthy.

scbubba
Sep 27th, 2013, 05:19 AM
I think the key thing to note about CJ is that she has had no qualms about using people in whatever way she wants. People are just another resource to her. Things will not end well for her, I fear....

Grognaurd
Sep 27th, 2013, 07:38 AM
Glen and Pete were never part if Dunbar to be exiled. The safe house was temporary until they proved they were worthy.

Point, but net effect is similar.

Witch_Doctor
Sep 27th, 2013, 10:23 AM
I think the key thing to note about CJ is that she has had no qualms about using people in whatever way she wants. People are just another resource to her. Things will not end well for her, I fear....

You're right. Remember how she referred to Kalani's pilot claim? "A pilot, I don't have one of those."

Witch_Doctor
Sep 27th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Very interesting. We never get any details on what the eyes of a Behemoth look like but we have interaction in the form of Riley's well placed shot into the eye of one of them. And then a behemoth covers its eyes while being shot at (was that the one chasing Kalani & Angel or the one chasing Saul & Victor?).

And we go through the whole "incredible sense of smell" discovery in Season 1 that could hint at a reduced eyesight capability in the "normals".

As they say, "the eyes are the windows to the soul" so in this case maybe the eyes are the doorway to downfall of TOWTM and maybe all of the Zombie Apocalypse....

Well, the regular zombies' eyes turn.

pmchawk
Sep 27th, 2013, 01:21 PM
Why do people keep saying someone stole the SWAT van? There was no evidence to this unless something was cut out. I believe it was Victor who said this when the truck gate was opening.. TOWTM was opening the gate, it was a jump to conclusion on his part before seeing the colonist gaurding the gate drop dead.

pmchawk
Sep 27th, 2013, 01:30 PM
Also the van was driven out of the pit to the dead end.

Grognaurd
Sep 28th, 2013, 04:52 AM
Re: Riley + Angel

Doesnt Riley say that Angel doesn't get it and perhaps she should be flattered...

Can she really be that much in touch with everyone else's feelings and so out of touch with her own? I am just going to pose the question and not serve any Kool Aide out of my tin hat...

:tinfoil:

Grognaurd
Sep 28th, 2013, 05:30 AM
Beheometh eyes

You are right, we do not know much about their eyes, but lets have more he blinded me with science...

In the early days of body building a nasty case of zits was a hallmark of steroid abuse. Now, the drugs are a lot cleaner and more is known about proper dosage and rotations. So, I figure someone is / was juicing some of the zombies to make them bigger. I wonder if we caught one in transition when they try to tag them and tracked them to the arena. Riley says "look at his muscles, they are so big." Maybe he was just a big dude in real life or maybe he was still changing.

Runners and Jumpers could sort of fit into this, too. Really fast runners do not really cycle their feet that much more than normal. What they do get is much more powerful push from each step that increases the length of the stride. As in all things, there is a balance. Too much muscle will start to slow one down because of the increased weight.

Witch_Doctor
Sep 28th, 2013, 07:47 PM
Beheometh eyes
I wonder if we caught one in transition when they try to tag them and tracked them to the arena. Riley says "look at his muscles, they are so big." Maybe he was just a big dude in real life or maybe he was still changing.



Hot dog! I'm glad someone else caught that. The time line bugs me though. They tag the Muscle Zombie and the following day (?) encounter a behemoth at the water tower. There was one already at the arena that could be heard in the background of Kalani's journal. I wrote a time line for this on another thread but Not sure which. Anyway, i can't remember if it was indicated that any of the zombies were tracked to the water tower. We know that they went in that direction but necessarily that particular location. Then again, they could have been distracted by the excitement to notice the locators sounding off.

LiamKerrington
Sep 29th, 2013, 01:45 AM
Hi there,

nice no #58 ... That was a very good job you, BriNik (see, what I did there?), did together with your guest James!
And yet I have to comment on the recording a small bit: at times I had some trouble hearing James very well, because he was "kind of" silent. So I humbly ask you to more thoroughly check your audio-settings with your guests in order to have all of you on more or less similar loudness-level ...

Best wishes!
Liam

nikvoodoo
Sep 29th, 2013, 04:56 AM
There is only so much checking we can do. In this instance, James' mic was super sensitive and was picking up BriNik (I like it!) through his headphones. In order to eliminate that, beez had to edit a lot which resulted in what you hear.

Grognaurd
Sep 29th, 2013, 05:00 AM
Hot dog! I'm glad someone else caught that. The time line bugs me though. They tag the Muscle Zombie and the following day (?) encounter a behemoth at the water tower. There was one already at the arena that could be heard in the background of Kalani's journal. I wrote a time line for this on another thread but Not sure which. Anyway, i can't remember if it was indicated that any of the zombies were tracked to the water tower. We know that they went in that direction but necessarily that particular location. Then again, they could have been distracted by the excitement to notice the locators sounding off.

It's not :tinfoil: material, but I think it was one that moved off in that direction and one tracker is used for the trap. Mr Beheometh may be smarter than an average season one biter, but not a Mensa candidate. Maybe Randy is their Datu. He says Growl Grrr (give me that!) and rips it off and returns to the arena to set the trap.

We "know" Michael Knows Randy and knows to go rescue ANgel, Riley and Datu at the arena. We also know that he uses the Hummer to get there despite all the roads in LA being pile up graveyard. My guess is he uses a combination of Sewars and those rainwater canals we saw in Terminator 2. Michael says "White Knuckling" to me that implies driving really fast mostly in a straight line. Sounds like canals, not maze navigation.

We know that there are multiple Beheomeths, I hazard a guess that they may not have all been made at the same time.

Grognaurd
Sep 29th, 2013, 06:19 AM
SWAT Armored Van

Nik did not hear back from KC in time for 58, but Nik did update the Wiki. It remains with the Colony

LiamKerrington
Sep 29th, 2013, 07:15 AM
Hey Nik,


There is only so much checking we can do. In this instance, James' mic was super sensitive and was picking up BriNik (I like it!) through his headphones. In order to eliminate that, beez had to edit a lot which resulted in what you hear.

Ok, I understand. I wouldn't want to put too much (or any more) weight on your shoulders. You already put a lot of effort on your show. My suggestion was based on false assumptions; so it is kind of pointless, because I did not consider what you mention here. Thank you.

Best wishes!
Liam

Osiris
Sep 29th, 2013, 08:27 AM
Good episode, yous guys.

Witch_Doctor
Sep 29th, 2013, 04:43 PM
swat armored van

nik did not hear back from kc in time for 58, but nik did update the wiki. It remains win the colony

great find!!

beezball
Sep 30th, 2013, 11:19 AM
Yeah, just to clarify any questions, the clarity of those "quiet sections" was so reduced that they wouldn't have been legible enough to hear had I cranked the volume to peaking. Sometimes when you have a earphones too loud the mic will pick them up, when I personally record a podcast I keep the earphones at the lowest level where I can still clearly hear what people are saying. Even Britt and Nik have this problem, but it is to a minimum and cleans out easily without much degrading of the track. I'd actually EQ'd the track extensively because it was very bass and mid heavy which also contributed to the problem.