The Indiana Jones Firefly effect.

[Duffusmonkey]

I have been watching Firefly on Netflix (Scububba is probably watching right now) and I love how Mal doesn't mess around. In the first episode the bad guy says "you can't run I'll find you" and Mal just shoots him dead to eliminate the problem. In the second episode "Crow" says that he is going to hunt Mal down after he gives a message to his boss, so Mal just kicks him into the intake of the engine. The next guy was much more cooperative.

So many dramas have the lead character make dumb decisions or decisions that are out of character to stretch the story. I remember being 11 and when the bad guy threatened Indiana Jones with a huge sword. Indiana just shot the guy and the theater went absolutely nuts with people laughing, screaming and cheering because everyone was so shocked... that A movie character did the logical thing.

So far We're Alive has been pretty neutral, During the early episodes I am almost screaming at my headphones that they need to find more guns, more safe houses and fortify the tower more. When I learned that CJ's tower did that but fell anyways it was kind of a shock to me, pretty cool.

I don't have any questions or theory's about this just curious if anyone on the forums is NOT a Firefly fan, and if you aren't you need to stop messing around and pull your gun and shoot!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GCRwwVTnf4Y/TwZjnuIRfRI/AAAAAAAAFt4/dKYBSeb4EiQ/s1600/indiana+jones+flag+egypt+and+thug+fight.jpg

[scbubba]

And I'm NOT currently watching an episode of Firefly.... :squint:

I watched one yesterday. :yay:

[Osiris]

I bought the series, I bought Serenity. I'm a browncoat through and through. Have been since the show aired. Not to sound Hipstery, but I was a fan before it was huge.




That totally sounds hipstery.

[Cabbage Patch]

I watched Firefly when it was first broadcast (out of order) on Fox, and I've been a Browncoat ever since. There are definitely brief moments when WA reminds me of Firefly, but overall I find the shows to be very different. Which I love, because they're both brilliant. One area where WA has it all over Firefly, though,...there's more WA coming!

[scbubba]

Like CP said, they are mostly different but both share being awesome.

I donned my browncoat back in 2006. Too late to be one of the originals, I guess. But, the story and the characters just struck a cord with me. I think most of all it's Mal - trying to do the right thing, helping people, staying alive but refusing to get chewed up and spit out by the big bad 'verse.

And Joss Whedon made these guys and girls so daggum likable and relatable.

And Kc is doing it too in WA.

God bless you both, gentlemen...

[LiamKerrington]

In all honesty: When I watched the first episodes of Firefly I had some trouble with connecting. But at an uncertain point I got attached and connected with everything from this show - the crew and cast, the "technology" depicted, the overall SciFi-theme, the Wild-West-Three-Musketeers-A-Team-In-A-Nutshell-Sandbox-mishmash, and everything ... I was and am very sorry that Firefly did not have the great opportunity to unfold as much as it was originally planned to do. And when the movie was screened, I was like: Wtf did they do to Shepherd? And what in the name of whatever did happen between the movie and the TV-show? This makes me very curious about this huge gap in the story. That is why I am looking forward to getting the new Firefly-RPG which will be released during this year (I guess around GenCon); and I already own the first Firefly-RPG ...

Firefly is an awesome piece of pop-culture. And considering the differences and the similarities with both Firefly and WA I guess I, too, like both because of similar reasons - as you already mentioned above. ;)

Thank you Kc, Cast, Crew, and Community.

edit: scbubba: You nailed it in your opening posting of this thread ... I'd like to rep you, but currently I can't ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[Cabbage Patch]

...when the movie was screened, I was like: Wtf did they do to Sheppard? And what in the name of Whatever did happen between the movie and the TV-show? And I am curious about this huge gap in the total story...

Josh Whedon wrote two comic books series and a graphic novel set, roughly, between the end of the TV Series and The Movie that help to fill in the gap. They're available on line from Darkhorse Comics. Be warned, they are a nice fix for us Firefly junkies, but they won't answer all your questions.

[scbubba]

Josh Whedon wrote two comic books series and a graphic novel set, roughly, between the end of the TV Series and The Movie that help to fill in the gap. They're available on line from Darkhorse Comics. Be warned, they are a nice fix for us Firefly junkies, but they won't answer all your questions.

You know, I feel like I ought to turn in my browncoat for a while because I STILL don't have copies of the comic book/graphic novel stuff. Shame on me.... But in my defense:

Mal: "You can't open the book of my life and jump in the middle. Like woman, I'm a mystery."

I shall go earn my browncoat back momentarily! (off to google up me some comics)

[Duffusmonkey]

I kept hearing about Firefly from a lot of Nerdy Podcasts I listen too and usually the suggestions are NOT for everyone, "I have still avoided Trueblood". But I finally broke down and finlly got Netflix just so I could start watching Firefly. My first thoughts were WTF its a Western?

I am only a few episodes in so give me a week or two before dropping too many spoilers

[scbubba]

I kept hearing about Firefly from a lot of Nerdy Podcasts I listen too and usually the suggestions are NOT for everyone, "I have still avoided Trueblood". But I finally broke down and finlly got Netflix just so I could start watching Firefly. My first thoughts were WTF its a Western?

I am only a few episodes in so give me a week or two before dropping too many spoilers

How are you liking it so far?

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

... I remember being 11 and when the bad guy threatened Indiana Jones with a huge sword...

The opponent wielded a scimitar not a longsword, that is for sure.

Although I have to admit that it is easier to identify a Scimitar in sci-fi movies:

http://johneaves.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/reman-warbird-scimitar-star-trek-nemesis-64.jpg

And yeah, Star Trek Into Darkness is finally approaching...

[scbubba]

And yeah, Star Trek Into Darkness is finally approaching...

:yay:

[Witch_Doctor]

Feeling kind of like the vegetarian at Thanksgiving Dinner (Been there, done that). I've tried watching Firefly but just couldn't get that much into it. Gonna give it another try though. Wish me luck.

[Duffusmonkey]

How are you liking it so far?

So far I really like it but I won't be buying the graphic novels or comic books.

To me comic books are like if you illustrated every 3rd We're Alive episode and never bother with the rest. The only comic book I have liked since I was 9 was The Walking Dead but I just couldn't being myself to keep buying them after the first 16.

[LiamKerrington]

Hello.

Srry, Cabbage Patch ... My 'puter was laggy, and firefox was kind of slow in building the screen; during this process I happened to hit "like" and "don't like" ... If I had the opportunity to undo my error, I would do it ... Thank you very much for your recommendation, which I totally and in all honesty like ... I think I will keep an eye open for the Firefly comics and graphic novel ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[Cabbage Patch]

Hello.

Srry, Cabbage Patch ... My 'puter was laggy, and firefox was kind of slow in building the screen; during this process I happened to hit "like" and "don't like" ... If I had the opportunity to undo my error, I would do it ... Thank you very much for your recommendation, which I totally and in all honesty like ... I think I will keep an eye open for the Firefly comics and graphic novel ...

Best wishes!
Liam

Machts nicht buddy.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Machts nicht buddy.

Cool, CB has finally unlocked the inline translation function. :yay: But what is the name of this mysterious language that appears to be rather archaic? :D

[GodofInsanity]

You have to make sure to catch the episodes in correct order. If you catch them in the jacked up order Fox originally set them out then it is hopeless. Browncoat through an through here. Even have my Tanks clan in WoT all hooked. This show keeps on giving and if ya want more Nathan Fillion then just hit up Castle

[LiamKerrington]

Cool, CB has finally unlocked the inline translation function. :yay: But what is the name of this mysterious language that appears to be rather archaic? :D

The weird sounds (or maybe better: noises) orally made by the barbaric beasts of he central European rolling hills ... You recognize them by the smell of beer (plenty of it) ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[Solanine]

I'm a fairly recent Brown coat, I only started the series last summer. Since then I;'ve already re-watched it and now i've got netflix I'm seriously tempted to go back.
Wasn't a huge fan of the movie though. Closed too many doors. Also a word of advice to new viewers, give it three or four episodes before quitting.

[Duffusmonkey]

I just got back in to watching Firefly. Mal just got married.

[Duffusmonkey]

Frickin! d^%nb Sh@!*He!d TV Execut$@!S~! WTF I just finished the last TV episode of Firefly, just when it gets REALLY good it ends~!!!!!!!! I kept looking for another disk, Cork Suxcking ICeholes! If the person that canceled the show would have been in the room with me I would have beat him worse that my father-in-law. I am afraid to watch the movie because there is no way a 2 hour movie could bring closure to this TV show without screwing it all up.

The bounty hunter was cool, he could have been in several more episodes before he got old.

[scbubba]

Frickin! d^%nb Sh@!*He!d TV Execut$@!S~! WTF I just finished the last TV episode of Firefly, just when it gets REALLY good it ends~!!!!!!!! I kept looking for another disk, Cork Suxcking ICeholes! If the person that canceled the show would have been in the room with me I would have beat him worse that my father-in-law. I am afraid to watch the movie because there is no way a 2 hour movie could bring closure to this TV show without screwing it all up.

The bounty hunter was cool, he could have been in several more episodes before he got old.

There, there Duffusmonkey. It'll be OK. We'll get through this together.

There are some other outlets for your grief and (soon to fail) recovery. The methadone to the Firefly heroin is the comic book outlet. There are a few good graphic novels that span some time between the end of the show and the movie. There are also very active fan communities all over cyberspace - some have decent fan fiction.

But just know that we are here for you - we who have suffered just as you are now... :)

[mem]

Celebrity Browncoat
Who wants to be Captain Mal
are in the works i think

[Duffusmonkey]

There, there Duffusmonkey. It'll be OK. We'll get through this together.

Thanks I watched the movie tonight and I thought it was really good. It closed up a lot of loose ends, maybe more than it should of, but at least I don't feel like I left the theater in the middle of a movie

[Solanine]

Yeah. Movie is good but I was so disappointed at just how well it ties things up.
It kind of killed all hope for me of a return to the show. What little I had anyway.

[Duffusmonkey]

SCBUBBA what was the story with Sheppard Book, I assumed he was an Alliance General or secret agent of some type before becomming a Sheppard. I assume he became a Sheppard out of guilt for something he did and he is only religeous because he can't deal with his past without some type of devine forgiveness. He clearly is not 100% sold on the Sheppard lifestyle.

My kids have been watching Firefly in the mini-van a lot lately so I have HEARD the first 6 episodes about 10 times each. With a little editing it could be a great audio drama.
I think that an audio drama of more firefly stories would make a great project for someone. Probably an insult to suggest that KC should work on somebody else's story but if he isn't doing anything else next year...

[scbubba]

SCBUBBA what was the story with Sheppard Book, I assumed he was an Alliance General or secret agent of some type before becomming a Sheppard. I assume he became a Sheppard out of guilt for something he did and he is only religeous because he can't deal with his past without some type of devine forgiveness. He clearly is not 100% sold on the Sheppard lifestyle.

Easier to quote from someone else than try to type it all myself... wrapping in spoiler tag in case someone wants to find out for themselves via the Firefly comics/graphic novels

His background is explored further in the comic book Serenity: The Shepherd's Tale. Book was born Henry Evans, a boy who was raised by an abusive father. He ran away from home and began life as a petty criminal before being recruited by the Independence movement and moving out to the Border Worlds. Long before the Alliance begins the Unification War, forward-thinking Browncoats assign Evans to be a long-term mole. He sheds his old identity by killing a random passerby and stealing his identification card, becoming Derrial Book. His Browncoat superiors keep tabs on him by surgically removing one of his eyes and replacing it with a camera. He joins the Alliance military and quickly moves up in rank. Becoming an officer, Book intentionally leads a risky operation that results in a humiliating defeat for the Alliance. He is forced to retire from the Alliance military. It is implied that the Alliance covers up the loss, therefore not officially punishing Book. Homeless, he visits a soup kitchen and finds God while contemplating a bowl of soup. He takes refuge at an abbey where he becomes a shepherd before leaving on Serenity to become a missionary.

[Duffusmonkey]

Thanks SCBUBBA I found hints of that in the Wiki for another Firefly comic book but I missed that one.


I love the spoiler text option I need to experiment with it

A robotic eye? REALLY? I usually don't like comic books, pretty pictures cover up bad writing too often