Can Zombies and Humans Live Together?

[Eviebae]

So, I am wondering if the zombie leader outside the tower is Randy:


Was he a zombie already when he and Michael met?
Did he helped Michael escape?
Does he retain knowledge of his former humanity?
Are the zombie's surrounding the Colony to attack or defend (is Ink on his way down)?
If there are "good" zombie leaders; could that even matter since left to their own devices they kill and turn humans.

[scbubba]

So, I am wondering if the zombie leader outside the tower is Randy:


Was he a zombie already when he and Michael met?
Did he helped Michael escape?
Does he retain knowledge of his former humanity?
Are the zombie's surrounding the Colony to attack or defend (is Ink on his way down)?
If there are "good" zombie leaders; could that even matter since left to their own devices they kill and turn humans.



Very interesting thoughts here. The "uneasy coexistence" between humans and zombies intrigues me to no end....

[Duffusmonkey]

NO! If humans and Zombies CoExisted then fan created human/Zombie erotica would fill the forums until I puked on my PC.

[fredrum]

So, I am wondering if the zombie leader outside the tower is Randy:


Was he a zombie already when he and Michael met?
Did he helped Michael escape?
Does he retain knowledge of his former humanity?
Are the zombie's surrounding the Colony to attack or defend (is Ink on his way down)?
If there are "good" zombie leaders; could that even matter since left to their own devices they kill and turn humans.




Given the descriptions of both Randy and the mystery zombie at the Colony as having long hair and beards, i think it's a pretty safe bet to assume that it is indeed Randy.

1. I highly doubt that Randy was already turned when he met Michael, if so, i would assume that Michaels attitude toward the zombies would be different, but he never shows any hesitation whatsoever to kill them when they are encountered. He also sounds very surprised when he encounters zombie Randy at the tower.
2. It seems to be implied that that is the case given what evidence we've been given, but until it is confirmed its just another guess.
3.It seems plausible, if only at the most basic level, but from what little we've seen of him he hasn't exactly been playing nice, so I would assume that the drives that come along with zombification are so strong as to overpower any remaining shreds of former humanity......
4. Im pretty sure that they are there to attack the Colony.
5. Whereas there may be multiple zombie factions, I think the one thing they all have in common is hostility to humans.

[Eviebae]

NO! If humans and Zombies CoExisted then fan created human/Zombie erotica would fill the forums until I puked on my PC.

Urk! That is far too true. A totally new spin on "Slash Fiction" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slash_fiction)!

[Deacon_Tyler]

NO! If humans and Zombies CoExisted then fan created human/Zombie erotica would fill the forums until I puked on my PC.

*my keyboard flexes and melts as my fingers pound so furiously away at the keys that it generates heat friction*

".....in the other room, Michael pounds furiously away at Randy, the latter's bloody mandibles clicking at Michael's nose, restraints stretched to the breaking. "You're going to have another mark on your face in like 30 seconds if you don't settle down, dude" Michael says tauntingly, their eyes glimmering with mutual affection"

[scbubba]

*my keyboard flexes and melts as my fingers pound so furiously away at the keys that it generates heat friction*

".....in the other room, Michael pounds furiously away at Randy, his bloody mandibles clicking at his nose, restraints stretched to the breaking. "You're going to have another mark on your face in like 30 seconds if you don't settle down, dude" Michael says tauntingly, their eyes glimmering with mutual affection"

Uh... Um... Uh.... Check please! :hsugh:

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

I do not think that zombies and humans can coexist. However, our little smelly friends solved the problem of overpopulation, I would rep them for this, most certainly.

[Luna Guardian]

*my keyboard flexes and melts as my fingers pound so furiously away at the keys that it generates heat friction*

".....in the other room, Michael pounds furiously away at Randy, the latter's bloody mandibles clicking at Michael's nose, restraints stretched to the breaking. "You're going to have another mark on your face in like 30 seconds if you don't settle down, dude" Michael says tauntingly, their eyes glimmering with mutual affection"
Zombie porn!

Aww man, again you guys? I already laid that beast to rest once, don't go resurrecting it again. No one wants to have that icky on their plate.

But I would have to say no. You don't see wolves and sheep living together, or lions and gazelles. Humans are prey to the zombies, and prey does not live with their predator

[scbubba]

Zombie porn!

Aww man, again you guys? I already laid that beast to rest once, don't go resurrecting it again. No one wants to have that icky on their plate.

But I would have to say no. You don't see wolves and sheep living together, or lions and gazelles. Humans are prey to the zombies, and prey does not live with their predator

Tell that to the cows on the farm... :-)

[Luna Guardian]

Tell that to the cows on the farm... :-)

I wouldn't exactly call us humans predators. Also cows are a whole lot docile than humans. Also, humans are a lot smarter than zombies (excluding maybe the smart ones)

[scbubba]

I wouldn't exactly call us humans predators. Also cows are a whole lot docile than humans. Also, humans are a lot smarter than zombies (excluding maybe the smart ones)

I contend that Humans are apex predators and the cow thing is an example of how predator and prey coexist... Not that it is how the prey necessarily wants to coexist nor with their assent. But it happens...

Basically a call back to the arena in season 1 where the Zeds kept a food supply on hand instead of just trying to find more when they got hungry.

[TimmyElliot]

I sort of thought the whole arena scene showed us that zombies and humans could coexist. The low ranking zombies refrained from eating humans and kept them in holding cells, so that was a coexistence of sorts. I can see the smart ones eventually figuring out how to breed humans for food.

[scbubba]

I sort of thought the whole arena scene showed us that zombies and humans could coexist. The low ranking zombies refrained from eating humans and kept them in holding cells, so that was a coexistence of sorts. I can see the smart ones eventually figuring out how to breed humans for food.

Right. Whether all of the Zeds have the ability to decide to be "ranchers", at least someone had the smarts to think of it and the ability to force the others to comply.

Makes you wonder if the masses around the Colony are gonna be killing people or taking prisoners... or trying to turn people... Hmmm?

[Robzombie]

I don't think the arena scene with Datu and Samantha was an instance of the Z's showing us how they keep a food supply at all. It was the piles of corpse both human and dead Z's that were the food. Datu, Kalani, Samantha, and that other guy were kept as playthings for Ink, not food, although they were feasted on after being "played" with. Its a ceremony of sorts where the whole point was to illustrate the cruelty of Ink and his position of power where he's so special that he gets these treats, tears them apart in front of his followers, and maybe shares peices among those lucky enough to get some.

[scbubba]

I don't think the arena scene with Datu and Samantha was an instance of the Z's showing us how they keep a food supply at all. It was the piles of corpse both human and dead Z's that were the food. Datu, Kalani, Samantha, and that other guy were kept as playthings for Ink, not food, although they were feasted on after being "played" with. Its a ceremony of sorts where the whole point was to illustrate the cruelty of Ink and his position of power where he's so special that he gets these treats, tears them apart in front of his followers, and maybe shares peices among those lucky enough to get some.

Hmmmm. Maybe right. Makes me wonder if any "smart ones" could think about long term food plans at all... Or do they just think "we'll always have food - just need to follow the people" like predators of migratory animals in the wild.

[Duffusmonkey]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrffffff, Heeeeaave heeeeaaavvve,...... damn it need a new keyboard now!

[TimmyElliot]

I don't think the arena scene with Datu and Samantha was an instance of the Z's showing us how they keep a food supply at all. It was the piles of corpse both human and dead Z's that were the food. Datu, Kalani, Samantha, and that other guy were kept as playthings for Ink, not food, although they were feasted on after being "played" with. Its a ceremony of sorts where the whole point was to illustrate the cruelty of Ink and his position of power where he's so special that he gets these treats, tears them apart in front of his followers, and maybe shares peices among those lucky enough to get some.

I agree. I think you nailed the main point of the scene. But the scene also, to a lesser degree, showed that zombies are capable of collecting humans (and body parts) without eating them right away, on the spot. That would be important if the smart ones figure out they need to start breeding their own food.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Ah, it remain one of the big mysteries why the zeehs and behemoths are so willing to follow Ink's rule. Are they able to comprehend that "it is for the greater zombie good" or are they simply afraid of what Ink might do to them? So they are either smarter than I thought or they were able to preserve their fears.

[Robzombie]

Where's a zombie psych professor when you need one :rolleyes:

[katlero]

Actullay if you look at the watering holes in the grasslands of Africa, lions, gazelles, zebras and all others sorts of prey and predator coexist together serenely. It is only when the lions and cheetahs get hungry and need to hunt for survival do the masses get spooked and run to protect themselves. In the same sense, I could see a mutual understanding coming to both zombies and humans. Although, the humans would always be lower on the food chain and, knowing Maslow's Heirarchy of Needs, a zombie/human coexistence would not survive because lack of security and all.