"Leave her."- and why?

[awkwardalex]

weather that was said by The Man in the Pinstipe Suit or not (or one of his many other names) is beside the point the real question is why leave Chinwe and Duncan.

I don't know about Duncan/Skittles (I'm kind of going with the "he was to pathetic" to eat theory). My theory is on Chinwe.

While Chinwe went into a pure mode of self presevation she was/is still the leader of the Other Tower. Now it seems to me that while Chinwe was not the most popular those who stayed did what she said, "CJ doesn't let us."

My theory is:

Chinwe was spared because she is a leader and can make a sustainable population -to a degree.

Zombies need food, which (amoung other things) are humans.

The smart zombies have enough perservation to know that humans must live and reproduce or the zombies themselves will die.

So to put is simply my thought is: Chinwe is a source of suvival. Survival = food. She needs to live.

What do you think?

*just be gentle, unlike behemoths I am not thick skined.*

[yarri]

My idea was that she was wedged in so tight where she was at with a small arsenal and ammo that Pinstripe would lose more of his solder zombies then it was worth to take her out. My secondary idea was she was such a bad ass her self that if he turned her she'd take him on for leadership though that one might be stretching it a bit.

[awkwardalex]

My idea was that she was wedged in so tight where she was at with a small arsenal and ammo that Pinstripe would lose more of his solder zombies then it was worth to take her out. My secondary idea was she was such a bad ass her self that if he turned her she'd take him on for leadership though that one might be stretching it a bit.

I didn't think of that one! I like it, it's also very possible.

[Osiris]

An interesting theory. I lean toward the idea that Stripey hasn't killed her yet because she's merely a card in his hand. I don't think the fact that she's a viable source of food for him down the road is factoring into any equation, neither do I subscribe to the idea that he's worried about losing soldiers. If that was true then there would have been no attacks on either The Tower, the Mallers or the other tower. No, it strikes me that if she is still alive it's because she's either lucky or she's serving as bait--unwittingly, of course--for a larger prize.

Good thought though.

[yarri]

An interesting theory. I lean toward the idea that Stripey hasn't killed her yet because she's merely a card in his hand. I don't think the fact that she's a viable source of food for him down the road is factoring into any equation, neither do I subscribe to the idea that he's worried about losing soldiers. If that was true then there would have been no attacks on either The Tower, the Mallers or the other tower. No, it strikes me that if she is still alive it's because she's either lucky or she's serving as bait--unwittingly, of course--for a larger prize.

Good thought though.


Bait for what? I'm curious.

[Eviebae]

My idea was that she was wedged in so tight where she was at with a small arsenal and ammo that Pinstripe would lose more of his solder zombies then it was worth to take her out. My secondary idea was she was such a bad ass her self that if he turned her she'd take him on for leadership though that one might be stretching it a bit.

Plus, they were probably full...yuck

[awkwardalex]

I'm just throwing this into my theory... Michael at the Water works. He escaped somehow and Randy became a zombie. We know that Burt is not good at being in charge, but Michael is what if he was...

[bradarro11]

this could factor in to why micheal is so reluctant to giving his side of events when he broke his arm. i know this isnt the randy thread but i never heard his name mentioned until after he had...

[Litmaster]

this could factor in to why micheal is so reluctant to giving his side of events when he broke his arm. i know this isnt the randy thread but i never heard his name mentioned until after he had surgery... who is randy??? does anyone know???

Randy is one of the 'techies' from CJ's tower who was sent to the water works to get the pumps working again. Apparently, the group got attacked and all turned zombie (that we know of) including Randy. Randy was also seen trying to drag off Tanya later in the story, though he failed.

The fact that Michael won't talk about how he escaped the water works, his mentioning the name 'Randy' while anesthetized at the Colony, the mystery surrounding his broken arm, and his self-doubt about his leadership capabilities all lead me to believe that Michael must have screwed Randy over at the water works, probably sacrificing Randy to the zombies in order to save his own ass. I wrote about my water works theory back in THIS POST (http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/showthread.php?2976-Chapter-27-The-Thirty-First-part-2&p=35726&viewfull=1#post35726).

[7oddisdead]

An interesting theory. I lean toward the idea that Stripey hasn't killed her yet because she's merely a card in his hand. I don't think the fact that she's a viable source of food for him down the road is factoring into any equation, neither do I subscribe to the idea that he's worried about losing soldiers. If that was true then there would have been no attacks on either The Tower, the Mallers or the other tower. No, it strikes me that if she is still alive it's because she's either lucky or she's serving as bait--unwittingly, of course--for a larger prize.

Good thought though.


this...
while not an overly popular theory, mainly because its totally speculation as to what 'ol stripey is planning..i have trouble seeing any other reason for leaving cj behind of all the other tower members. cards in his hand..this is all i got thus far

[GeneTwo]

The theory of Chinwe being a prison guard or some kind of law enforcement has been knocking around in my head. She does know how to choke a dude out, *sorry Saul. Anyway if she had a hand in taking Bill Roberts down, putting him in jail for life or throwing him in solitary, then leaving her alone is revenge.

Bill "Pinstripe" Roberts must have recognized her voice or something and decided that since she put him in jail/solitary then he would put her there too. He killed or captured everyone around her and left her alone. She basically is in a jail of her own making and Pinstripe made it solitary.

[bradarro11]

i like this idea of CJ being a person of authority, but putting Bill "stripey" away or having something to do with his punishment seems unlikley. CJ would of recognised him from the pics/vids from the survailance footage would'nt she? that kind of info is too important to leave out of the last episode. isnt it?

[GeneTwo]

She never saw Pinstripe, only heard his voice. She barely had an image of him on her cameras. CJ mentioned that the zombie "leader" had gray skin, when Saul corrected her and told her it was tattoos.

[Nitara]

I think it far more likely that he has some type of plan for her later on, but your idea is definitely worth considering. Who knows? Maybe it's a combination of both.

[HillbillySUV]

First post here, but I've got a theory I haven't found on the forum yet.
It seems that those who have had a bout of insanity seem to live longer.


We hear Sean cautioning CJ to take it easy or she might have another breakdown.
Duncan/AKA Skittles is nuttier than squirrel poop.
Datu (sp?) lost it at the arena.
While Michael seems to have it together now, he hints at the beginning of episode 1 that he was burned out and "didn't care about death or what came after".
Scratch... no explanation needed.
Gatekeeper... no explanation needed here either.

Factor in Ink/Stripey, being a total nutcase before he turned...


It would go a long way toward explaining why CJ and Skittles were left alive.

[HillbillySUV]

Well I see that nobody has commented yet, so I'll take the opportunity to elaborate on this a bit more.

Maybe the biters are less interested in those who are mentally unstable. Whether that is someone's permanent state, or induced by alcohol/pills, etc.

This might also help explain the second set of tracks in the field where Riley was passed out. (or she just reeked of alcohol and they didn't find her)
It would also fit with the arena, where they ignored Kalani (or maybe it was just because he was passed out) and Datu who was busy killing biters with a chair leg.

[GeneTwo]

WAverse, filled with zombies, some fast, some strong, some jump, some Olympic swimmers, and some are smart. Where there's a roving band of prisoners taking... prisoners. Where there is no safe place to live. If someone is not a just little bit "off", I would be surprised.

[HillbillySUV]

Granted, but it would go a long way toward explaining why the biters ignored Skittles, and left CJ alone.

[myltldmn]

[QUOTE=HillbillySUV;38773
It would also fit with the arena, where they ignored Kalani (or maybe it was just because he was passed out) and Datu who was busy killing biters with a chair leg.[/QUOTE]

I don't see it fitting for drugs. Martin was obviously high as a kite and they took him (unless he came down while Kalani was out). I think Kalani was left because he wouldn't have been fun "sport" down in the arena.

[reaper239]

this...
while not an overly popular theory, mainly because its totally speculation as to what 'ol stripey is planning..i have trouble seeing any other reason for leaving cj behind of all the other tower members. cards in his hand..this is all i got thus far

i think it's because he's an evil salty basser. what is the best way to spread word about your might? slaughter a unch of people and leave survivors. skittles cracked, not a great witness but still very demoralizing to any survivors he happens across (angel and crew were clearly shaken a bit after meeting him on the road to damascus... excuse me, the arena) so the best way to spread word and freak people out is to leave a still moderately sane survivor.

[awkwardalex]

i think it's because he's an evil salty basser. what is the best way to spread word about your might? slaughter a unch of people and leave survivors. skittles cracked, not a great witness but still very demoralizing to any survivors he happens across (angel and crew were clearly shaken a bit after meeting him on the road to damascus... excuse me, the arena) so the best way to spread word and freak people out is to leave a still moderately sane survivor.

That is EXACTLY what i was trying to say! Ink's twistedly evil.