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yoyoyoyo15
Mar 25th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Two things about Mosquitos... Since this "infection" travels through the transition of blood, wouldn't mosquitos have some sort of impact? They arent even mentioned in the series. Plus there are plenty of animals for them to feast on so I don't believe that they would just die off... But I could see if the "infection" killed the mosquito. But with all the zombies walking around it is like a mosquito heaven.

Second, this has nothing to do with were alive but arent Mosquitos in general just zombies? The only difference I can think of (besides size, being able to fly, etc.) is that the breed. But there main goal in life is to eat you... (or suck your blood... Which is related to vampires... But that my friends is a different genre)

Kc
Mar 25th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Two things about Mosquitos... Since this "infection" travels through the transition of blood, wouldn't mosquitos have some sort of impact? They arent even mentioned in the series. Plus there are plenty of animals for them to feast on so I don't believe that they would just die off... But I could see if the "infection" killed the mosquito. But with all the zombies walking around it is like a mosquito heaven.

Second, this has nothing to do with were alive but arent Mosquitos in general just zombies? The only difference I can think of (besides size, being able to fly, etc.) is that the breed. But there main goal in life is to eat you... (or suck your blood... Which is related to vampires... But that my friends is a different genre)

Just an fyi. Not all things can be transferred via mosquitos. http://www-rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/aids.htm
Not saying this is the case, but I just wanted to pipe in :0)

cleeprevo
Mar 25th, 2012, 08:56 PM
[MYTH BUSTED]
Kc immediately finds a way to make his theory untrue

yoyoyoyo15
Mar 26th, 2012, 03:50 AM
Lol

yoyoyoyo15
Mar 26th, 2012, 03:51 AM
Well mr. Wayland has spoken therefore all other comments are now void... Wait a minute... Are you saying that it started from a virus/aids?

Kc
Mar 26th, 2012, 08:37 AM
Well mr. Wayland has spoken therefore all other comments are now void... Wait a minute... Are you saying that it started from a virus/aids?

Never said anything like that.

Hence the reason I said, "Not saying this is the case, but I just wanted to pipe in :0)"

yoyoyoyo15
Mar 26th, 2012, 12:47 PM
Lol i was just kidding...

Osiris
Apr 1st, 2012, 02:26 PM
Has there been an absolute 100% irrefutable fact-laden paper published by a group of doctors that says 'the infection is travels from host to host via the blood'? It seems like a safe assumption, but still just an assumption. Unless I fell asleep during that episode.

Eviebae
Apr 1st, 2012, 07:28 PM
Has there been an absolute 100% irrefutable fact-laden paper published by a group of doctors that says 'the infection is travels from host to host via the blood'? It seems like a safe assumption, but still just an assumption. Unless I fell asleep during that episode.

Yeah, but all the people on the peer review committee are zombies, so that compromises the integrity of the results...

Osiris
Apr 1st, 2012, 08:08 PM
Then I think we need to throw that theory out the window until such time as conclusive evidence can be presented, analyzed and discussed at length.

yoyoyoyo15
Apr 2nd, 2012, 04:24 AM
Agreed... Lol

Eviebae
Apr 2nd, 2012, 02:14 PM
Then I think we need to throw that theory out the window until such time as conclusive evidence can be presented, analyzed and discussed at length.

um, let's not defenestrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defenestrate) anything just yet! Just keep an open mind rather than window.

What we do have is a bunch of observations--some of which contradict each other. So, what are your suggestions?

Osiris
Apr 2nd, 2012, 02:16 PM
um, let's not defenestrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defenestrate) anything just yet! Just keep an open mind rather than window.

What we do have is a bunch of observations--some of which contradict each other. So, what are your suggestions?

Suggestions as to how the 'infection' is transmitted?

Eviebae
Apr 2nd, 2012, 02:27 PM
Suggestions as to how the 'infection' is transmitted?

Sure, I mean Kc already knows his solution, but I find it interesting to spitball.

Osiris
Apr 2nd, 2012, 02:41 PM
I'd be inclined to avoid the airborne contagion scenario, simply because it makes little to no sense and seems like a huge cop-out. It's like a nuclear explosion in place of the a giant squid. Like the writer/s simply gave up and plucked an idea from a spinning Wallace Plot Wheel.

I'd also avoid the typical 'transferred via saliva and blood' as the vehicle. After the whole 'Saul Lived' debacle that throws a big old monkey wrench into the mix. Sure, there are a lot of variables in that incident that could account for Saul not ending up being seriously dead-ish.

I like to sway in time with the idea of psionics being the cause. It explains the feelings of discomfort, nausea and so on that some characters noted when they drew close to certain sites around the city. It helps to explain the hive mind consciousness that I've touched on before either in post or blog. It could be that Patient Zero's initial exposure to whatever it was that caused the genetic mutation gave him/her access to an unknown higher brain function allowing him/her to 'infect' those in his/her immediate vicinity. It would mean that the biting is merely a side effect of the chemical change in the victim's brain, but entirely unrelated to the passing of the 'infection'.

Eviebae
Apr 2nd, 2012, 03:29 PM
I'd be inclined to avoid the airborne contagion scenario, simply because it makes little to no sense and seems like a huge cop-out. It's like a nuclear explosion in place of the a giant squid. Like the writer/s simply gave up and plucked an idea from a spinning Wallace Plot Wheel.

I'd also avoid the typical 'transferred via saliva and blood' as the vehicle. After the whole 'Saul Lived' debacle that throws a big old monkey wrench into the mix. Sure, there are a lot of variables in that incident that could account for Saul not ending up being seriously dead-ish.

I like to sway in time with the idea of psionics being the cause. It explains the feelings of discomfort, nausea and so on that some characters noted when they drew close to certain sites around the city. It helps to explain the hive mind consciousness that I've touched on before either in post or blog. It could be that Patient Zero's initial exposure to whatever it was that caused the genetic mutation gave him/her access to an unknown higher brain function allowing him/her to 'infect' those in his/her immediate vicinity. It would mean that the biting is merely a side effect of the chemical change in the victim's brain, but entirely unrelated to the passing of the 'infection'.


If you say psionic now, you have to explain why not psionic before now. The game has to have changed. In other words, the people behind this have to have gotten hold of a way to make it work for them better than ever before, what could that be?

Osiris
Apr 2nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
If you say psionic now, you have to explain why not psionic before now. The game has to have changed. In other words, the people behind this have to have gotten hold of a way to make it work for them better than ever before, what could that be?

I would chalk that up to--like I said--genetic mutation allowing access to some unknown higher brain function. What may have caused that genetic mutation could have been anything from an experimental mood altering drug being tested in a hospital (we all know which one)--though I'm inclined to rail against that particular theory as I just don't like the idea of the experiments of man being the cause--or the unintentional introduction of a spore ingested through tainted food. The old 'bad Spam' theory.

I just like how neatly the idea of psionics/hive mind answers questions about the 'zombies'. I'm probably way off base but entirely willing to admit that. It'll be interesting to see if Kc even answers that question by the final episode. If it was me I would avoid doing that simply to let the mythos spiral out into continual debate even after the show has ended. Everyone has a theory about it and that's what makes it a great topic of discussion. I'm hopeful we never find out.

Eviebae
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:33 PM
Everyone has a theory about it and that's what makes it a great topic of discussion. I'm hopeful we never find out.

I like playing "what if"

Osiris
Apr 2nd, 2012, 05:44 PM
It's far better than 'So that's what it was... I guess we don't need to talk about it anymore.'

Luna Guardian
Apr 3rd, 2012, 03:16 AM
um, let's not defenestrate (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/defenestrate) anything just yet!

Seriously? "Defenestrate" is an actual established word? Really?

Ahem.

Let us assume for a minute for the sake of spitballing that the cause of zombification can be passed through blood and that it could be transmitted by mosquitoes. I'm taking a page outta Max Brooks' book, but what if animals avoid the zombies? In the water facility scene when Angel and Riley hid under a pile of dead bodies, shouldn't the air have been full of flies? Or the ambushed convoy, the driver's compartment smelled like shit. Or the zeds themselves, shouldn't there have been at least some sort of vermin flying or crawling or skittering somewhere? So far the only animals I remember are Mr. Whiskers and Lady.

Of course it might just be that KC doesn't bother with such minor details, but since he has had an insane track record so far, I think this might be something to discuss.

HaveCrowBarWillTravel
Apr 10th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Seriously? "Defenestrate" is an actual established word? Really?

Ahem.

Let us assume for a minute for the sake of spitballing that the cause of zombification can be passed through blood and that it could be transmitted by mosquitoes. I'm taking a page outta Max Brooks' book, but what if animals avoid the zombies? In the water facility scene when Angel and Riley hid under a pile of dead bodies, shouldn't the air have been full of flies? Or the ambushed convoy, the driver's compartment smelled like shit. Or the zeds themselves, shouldn't there have been at least some sort of vermin flying or crawling or skittering somewhere? So far the only animals I remember are Mr. Whiskers and Lady.

Of course it might just be that KC doesn't bother with such minor details, but since he has had an insane track record so far, I think this might be something to discuss.



hahah. It's actually one of my favorite words since it's so innocent, yet.... "you grab a leg and I grab his hands... heave... on 3 and make sure he doesn't land on anyone!"

zombietime
Jul 10th, 2012, 02:58 AM
these days mosquitoes are more stronger than ever, they carry viruses today that is so hard to treat.And it is so dangerous when you get bitten because you don't know who's blood it carries. It is so rampant today,many gets sick..Hope the government do something about it.





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