Do you really want to know what caused it?

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

This has been on my mind for a good min and I've come to the conclusion that I don't care how this all really started. Do you?

Blasphemy you say!
Not at all mon ami!

One of the reasons why I started this line of thought is because once the event is explained, people will start looking for the loopholes, the inconsistancies or the trouble with the science so to speak.

In the end, almost 90 percent of our movies don't tell why, they just tell the journey.

[Rock Daddy]

I do want to know, but I have to agree with you Crowbar. As much as I want some damn answers, it would ruin the ride right now! It doesn't change the story of these people trying to survive, it only enhances it (for me, not them ;)). MAYBE... it would be cool if at the VERY end there were hints or clues as to exactly how it all began. OR... Once the series is finished, it might be cool to see some spin offs, or lost journals, concentrating more on the origins than the story of survival.

[nikvoodoo]

I'm assuming you're talking about 90% of zombie movies don't tell why. I'd say that most movies do indeed tell you why things happen and how because it's naturally what the mind wants to know when being told a story.

Personally, I want to know. People can look for loopholes all they want, I'm pretty certain we've only found one or two conflicts in the story and both were pretty minor (the one about the hummer hatch in the beginning, and there was another one I don't recall right now....) I believe if we were to be told how this happened, it wouldn't take away from the story, and I'm positive Kc and Company would be able to reveal it so we won't be able to find loopholes (and if there are loopholes, he's got a fanatic fanbase that will defend the loopholes) :p

[Luna Guardian]

Personally, I'm dying to know and unless it's a really, REALLY dumb reason (an overdone April's Fool joke that got way out of hand), I don't mind. I question and I nitpick, but that doesn't take anything away from the story for me. To me, We're Alive is happening in it's own universe where the reason, whatever it might turn out to be, will be plausible.

[silent E]

While it might be nice to know what caused the outbreak, I think that the story would make a major shift into figuring it out.
Perhaps over time if little bits and pieces of info get put into the story, though, it would satisfy those who are curious. Possibly, like Rock Daddy said, do something like a spin-off or release those bits later on or towards the end (if there is one).
but I do like the story as is right now.

[Kc]

I'm pretty certain we've only found one or two conflicts in the story and both were pretty minor (the one about the hummer hatch in the beginning, and there was another one I don't recall right now....)
Wait, what about the Hummer Hatch?

[nikvoodoo]

Wait, what about the Hummer Hatch?

I believe it was j0be that pointed out in the Chapter 1-2 when Pegs and Riley are being rescued they enter the Hummer through the hatch on the roof. But when Angel and Saul are retrofitting the hummer for their first supply run (the one when they find Burt) Saul has made a hatch in the roof of the Hummer....despite there apparently already being one. (chapter 2-3 ~15:00 mark)

[Kc]

I believe it was j0be that pointed out in the Chapter 1-2 when Pegs and Riley are being rescued they enter the Hummer through the hatch on the roof. But when Angel and Saul are retrofitting the hummer for their first supply run (the one when they find Burt) Saul has made a hatch in the roof of the Hummer....despite there apparently already being one. (chapter 2-3 ~15:00 mark)

Oh, got it! That wasn't a mistake. He made it a real "Hatch" that was able to be closed. Before it was just an open hole. Michael called out to close the hatch in the first chapter, but they couldn't.

[Osiris]

Personally, I'm happy not knowing what caused it or why. It's a little scarier that way. Say everything works out in the end, the hordes are pushed back, contained and destroyed... everything returns to normal, but the thought will always be in the back of your mind: Good God, is whatever caused this still out there? Not knowing leads to paranoia which is always entertaining.

[nikvoodoo]

Oh, got it! That wasn't a mistake. He made it a real "Hatch" that was able to be closed. Before it was just an open hole. Michael called out to close the hatch in the first chapter, but they couldn't.

Ah ha! Great! Ok so now there's only one loophole that isn't explained....and I don't remember what it is...so...uh...it's closed by default? :p

[Tandem25]

Personally, I'm happy not knowing what caused it or why. It's a little scarier that way. Say everything works out in the end, the hordes are pushed back, contained and destroyed... everything returns to normal, but the thought will always be in the back of your mind: Good God, is whatever caused this still out there? Not knowing leads to paranoia which is always entertaining.

Well put. I agree. But, if we do find out I can handle that too....Unless it's turns out to be aliens. Then I'll just have flashbacks of me flushing twenty bucks down the crapper to see Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal skull.
Boooooooo Lucas/Spielberg Booooooo!

[j0be]

Oh, got it! That wasn't a mistake. He made it a real "Hatch" that was able to be closed. Before it was just an open hole. Michael called out to close the hatch in the first chapter, but they couldn't.

Whelp, my work is done.

The continuity "errors" I've pointed at thus far have just been minor technical writing vague things, or me just not understanding it properly.

[Osiris]

God I hope it isn't aliens.

[Kc]

Whelp, my work is done.

The continuity "errors" I've pointed at thus far have just been minor technical writing vague things, or me just not understanding it properly.

Maybe a loophole thread might be in order? Some of these things I can clear up, and possibly change.

[cycogod]

i thought i heard it's written till 2014...I sense a cliffhanger ending. he won't give it away and the ending is gonna be bad ass, as always--

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Maybe a loophole thread might be in order? Some of these things I can clear up, and possibly change.

Done and Done Sir KC!

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Nik,

Yo Son! LOL.. sorry, I went Brooklyn for a second there.
ahem.. I do dig how a vast majority of the Zombie/Infected flicks leave us in the dark. We get to go along for the ride. Other times an explanation is simply Duex ex machina, ala time travel. eewwww! (can a grown man go "ewww??").
I kinda dig the idea of bread crumbs that lead to an ultimate answer, but it's left to us to figure it out.

[VeritableHero]

OR... Once the series is finished, it might be cool to see some spin offs, or lost journals, concentrating more on the origins than the story of survival.I really like this idea. Alternate viewpoints or one-off story arcs that take 1-3 weeks but explore another viewpoint of the events. The possibilities are great! However, I imagine that by the end of the story, KC will be more than ready to move on to a different project. I'd can't wait to see (er, hear?) his storytelling put to work on other ideas.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

I really like this idea. Alternate viewpoints or one-off story arcs that take 1-3 weeks but explore another viewpoint of the events. The possibilities are great! However, I imagine that by the end of the story, KC will be more than ready to move on to a different project. I'd can't wait to see (er, hear?) his storytelling put to work on other ideas.

Hero,

This is kinda what I was hinting at on the "Character's backstory" thread. Gap fillers or easter eggs so to speak. Like Samatha's entry gave us insight into Ink/Suit's workings.

[MrScott101]

Well I for one really don't think it was alien related thing but then again with chapter 23 that could be a possibility considering the arm! I do want to know especially with this much time investment. However he could still lead us in thinking we know how it started with info that is just the tip of the iceburg and throw in new information that could put us into weeks of speculation. Considering the attention to detail and realism put into the story line it will definately be something very plausible.

[Rock Daddy]

God I hope it isn't aliens.

Well, it doesn't have to be Alien beings per say, but there's always the whole outerspace virus theory... But that doesn't explain why it simultaneously broke out in all major cities around the world. Someone had to do it on purpose... OK, I DO want to know! At least by the end.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Well, it doesn't have to be Alien beings per say, but there's always the whole outerspace virus theory... But that doesn't explain why it simultaneously broke out in all major cities around the world. Someone had to do it on purpose... OK, I DO want to know! At least by the end.

Rock!
Actually i WOULD explain it. Meteor breaks up upon entry and pieces of it fall across the earth. The all land roughly the same time due to the high orbit break up and BAM!

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Anyway.. I'd rather have a vague ending with clues like that and let my imagination take it from there.
Like my fav monster movie "Cloverfield" they show "something" fall into the ocean infront of a boat...

[Ra1th]

To put it simply... yeah, I really wanna know

[Chogidog]

If they all end up in a church and it turns out they've been dead the whole time... I'm gonna be pissed lol

[COsurvivor]

Someone say Sixth Sense?!?!?

I think not knowing gives something to the story... Would you listen to everything again if you knew how it all began? Not knowing keeps some mystery and keeps us back for more, not too mention it keeps us coming here asking, WHY???

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Someone say Sixth Sense?!?!?

I think not knowing gives something to the story... Would you listen to everything again if you knew how it all began? Not knowing keeps some mystery and keeps us back for more, not too mention it keeps us coming here asking, WHY???

I have to agree with you there. That's why I put forth the "Bread Crumb" idea. Give us clues. I don't want it spelled out for me. Throw the crumbs and clues out there and make me listen to the whole damn series over and over again to try and put the puzzle together.

[nikvoodoo]

I have to agree with you there. That's why I put forth the "Bread Crumb" idea. Give us clues. I don't want it spelled out for me. Throw the crumbs and clues out there and make me listen to the whole damn series over and over again to try and put the puzzle together.

I respond to this with the ending of the Sopranos and everyone's Up In Arms Reaction because they blacked out before you knew what the ending was. I feel like not revealing the source does the same thing. It cuts the story off before its complete. I understand by the time its over you can't do any more "damage" to yourself by not revealing the story. Everyone has already listened at that point.

[Beaumont]

This has been on my mind for a good min and I've come to the conclusion that I don't care how this all really started. Do you?

Blasphemy you say!
Not at all mon ami!

One of the reasons why I started this line of thought is because once the event is explained, people will start looking for the loopholes, the inconsistancies or the trouble with the science so to speak.

In the end, almost 90 percent of our movies don't tell why, they just tell the journey.

I'd like to know by the end what happened or what caused the outbreak and also how it spread so fast and crippled society in such a short time. It's a very daunting task to keep everything cohesive and plausible when you have so many fans dissecting every decision you make.

[Don Man]

I agree with you I dont want to know how all this started this is a story of survival the zombies are there so they must survive this isnt meant to be about zombies

[kafu288]

If I don't know what happens at the end I'm going to be as pissed as everything who actually watched Lost all the way through to find out right at the end "oh yeah they were dead the whole time and this was like hell". I want a real ending.

[Survivor]

I bet it is all scientists fault. Again.

[Creem_Filling]

I bet it is all scientists fault. Again.

I bet it's the Russians. They're craft like that.

[COsurvivor]

Why do I think it is a product for women that went crazy?

[Boomstick]

If they all end up in a church and it turns out they've been dead the whole time... I'm gonna be pissed lol

This times 1000! WTF Lost.

[Don Man]

I think we are going to find out but I hope that its not cliche like biological weapons or an experiment that went wrong

[smalls kenobi]

the end would be KC waking up from a dream, sitting at his desk. then the camera pulls back and reveals he's wearing a straight jacket and he's in a small white room. behind him we see a door with a small window, two orderlies are peering in, Michael and Saul.

S: "looks like he finally woke up."

M: "Yeah, what, he's been out for 4 days straight? i cant see how anyone can do that."

S: "What do you think he dreams about? are they that damn good?"

M: "no, i doubt it. he's been here since he was 7, what could he possibly think of, he can barely draw smiley faces on his desk."

S: "Yeah, i guess you're right."

*Michael's radio crackles*
Burt: "You guys do know I've been listening to your conversation this whole time?! quit your horseplay and get back to work!"

*Saul mouths "oh shit". they both walk away.
long shot of the hallway, both M and S walking away from the camera.
Pegs is sitting on a bench in the hall feverishly biting her nails, wearing all white.
And Riley is being escorted by Angel to her room.

Fade To Black.

[ilanagl]

I kind of want to know. It would add lots to the story. If there's a specific place it started is there a cure in that area? Why was it created? A revenge story line where they kill all the raydon labs scientists(assuming that's where it was created) could be cool, if done right(and they seen to do everything right)

[Grognaurd]

Well, I could be cool not knowing. We all know this is way out there in the spectrum of possibilities. So one runs the risk of taking away from the story as people nitpik. The story is more about how do a bunch of strangers pull together to contend with multiple threats to achieve the one goal of survival. But, as they get closer to the goal they will find most have a different definition of survival. Zombies are plot device. It could be a forest fire. An island of stability in the midsts of a riot. The arena in Katrina.

[Survivor]

I bet it's the Russians. They're craft like that.

Mmm *checking top secret papers*
Nope not in our plans )